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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:59 am Reply with quote
okay...

Firstly:
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(as the young man said, we can prove it)


Put up or shut up. Im sure one of you has a webcam and Im sure if you send Awnserman an amazing video proving us all wrong he will be happy to post it in his next column.

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persecuting our kind is not the answer. I would ask you to look upon the lessons taught us by the defeat of the Nazis before continuing to rail against our kind. It is a form of racism.


Heil Awnserman! Seriously though: get over yourself. Wow someone made fun of you over the internet. Clearly thats akin to the Holocost. Comparing the two is downright offensive and destroys any possible validity you might have.

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For the time being I ask that you publically apologize to the entire 'kin community. We are people who deserve respect, and our feelings should be considered.


Look, Im gonna try and be nice here because I have a valid point that you would be well advised to learn. I said this exact same thing last week: Are you suprised that people are making fun of you? Regardless of whether you believe it, you need to realize that to the rest of the world it sounds completely ridiculous. So if you openly admit this stuff to people, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE FUN OF YOU. If you believe/admit you believe this stuff is up to you, but dont be suprised if you end up on Flake of the Week.
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ichido reichan





PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:10 am Reply with quote
AHHHH answerman, you are being too harsh on "them" all of you guys too....

If he thinks he is a ninja, let him be a ninja....

If she thinks she is a guardian of justice...let her be one....

Now, in this dimension that we call "Reality" is very easy to prove a truth to yourself and all these people, being the powerful beings that they are, sure have a lot of time in their hands boasting of their superpowers and personalities to really know what it means to be the ones they assume to be.

So you have Chacra and can do rasengans, awesome!! now go and list yourself in the UFC or Pride championships and use it there before the other fighter put you in the "ground submission" and does a "Kimura" or an "Arm lock" and tries the "superman punch" (note that these moves really exist in mixed martial arts and are devastating for your health")

So in the past life you were sailor moon, the defender of justice, how about you go outside and fight real crime? instead of monsters and demons, ofcourse you will have child molesters, abusive husbands, drug dealers, gun traffickers and these people will not have to think too much in use a gun or a knife to kill you, oh wait! I forgot you are in the confort of your own warm home boasting you were a powerful warrior in your past life.....

Now, people, enough sarcasm, these guys never experience being on the Meiji era where chaos and death were everywere, there aren't ninjas anymore because these high trained soldier-spies had to put their own body and mind to the test, sometimes not eating for days, and they were ready for death at anytime if their lord told them so, Oh wait, yeah..they still do that in the Navy seals...

Reality is everywhere people, anime and manga is a little pastime that is over when you close the book and turn off the tv, if they wanna play house or come to you trying to convince you that they were fairies or dragons or ninjas in the past, they are negating THEMSELVES, they are denying THEIR OWN EXISTENCE and there is not a cruelest thing that you can do to yourself that negate the fact that you, as a person, exist in this world.

If you don't like the way you are, fine, be somebody else, change, but do it so people can recognize the way you are...If I had powers I will be all over tv showing people what I can do and getting paid for it, there you have "America's got talent" go there and show your powers/skills, but we will never see that because our powered heroes are too busy discussing their powers and re-encarnations with their friends, and enjoying a miserable life is not theirs while missing their own true existence

For more info about how harmful is denying your existence, watch the american movie "Heavenly creatures" based on a true story.


-Now for the international anime fan without money I lived in a 3rd world country, where they still watch anime pirate, I had almost 300 copies of "originals" and you can buy them for 3 dollars each, now with the dvd is even cheaper, but the economy in those countries are bad and people buy copies to actually sell copies or organize paid anime showings where you can go and enjoy trading with more people.

For Japan, that market is lost... and they don't care....

But international idiots coming to answerman crying and saying "Without fansubs I would never become the anime fan that I am,anime should be free in my country cause Im poor!!!" should know they'll never gonna win the argument.

so my message for that dude: Man STEAL QUIET!!! enjoy the free rides and shut up, dont try to reason, just watch as much anime as you can and dont try to find a reason for it, luckily you are not the target audience for anybody and japan will not ever see a penny out of you, so just enjoy anime in Poland...Ups..I mean Chile...OOPs wrong again...I mean Argentina...yeah...
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teh*darkness



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:21 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
I was wondering were Satou from Welcome to the N.H.K. was. Or pretty much anyone else from that series.


Hehe... I won't claim that I'm Satou... but after watching that series, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who wrote the original story used me as a basis for him... Wink

Anywho... so many good points brought up here...
About fansubbing, I'm a huge "fan" of it... I follow so many series, downloading more than I can watch... as it relates to licensing/DVD releases, I feel that as long as the series is not available for sale in the US/Canada, etc., it's still okay for me to download and watch the end of the series. Look at Blood+... Sony announced a license for the series in January of 2006, just after episode 14 was aired. Here it is, 4 months after the series finished in Japan, and we've still heard nothing about when it's coming out. I'm so glad there were groups who finished the series so I could see how it ended. Now if Sony would ever release it here, I'd buy it. But there are plenty of series I watch simply to kill time, that I would never buy, because they are so generic... these, I feel no problem with watching and not buying, if they ever come out here... Others, I will avoid downloading, because I know I will buy them and watch them in DVD quality, rather than shawdy, low res tv rips used for fansubs. Case in point, Eureka 7. All my friends who liked that show either got the fansubs and have finished it already, or watched it on YouTube... I decided I liked the series enough that I'm waiting for the DVD's to release, and I'm also buying the Limited Edition's... so I have 3 t-shirts, 3 manga volumes, and 3 boxes, as well as the first 5 DVD's for E7... no one who watched it on YouTube, claiming it's a great series, can say that...

As for Naruto, I really don't see the big deal with the filler... I finished watching up through episode 220 this last Saturday. Yes, some of it was really bad, and a lot of the artwork was horrible, but it was still Naruto, and it wasn't really crap. It just wasn't the manga storyline... and it seems no one realized, or at least chose to admit, that the longer the filler ran, the more manga there would be when it came back from filler, so the more episodes they'd get before it goes back to filler if the series doesn't finish by then *shudder*. Now, I'm buying the uncut boxsets as they come out, so I now own 25 episodes. I'll buy the filler seasons when they come out, so that I own the entire series, since I'm a fan. And there will undoubtedly be people like me, who can enjoy the series for what it is, not what it isn't... for the rest of you, Naruto Shipudden just aired yesterday in Japan, and I'm off to watch the first 2 episodes... knowing full well that I have suffered through exactly what every japanese fan had to, in order to get this far. And it makes the prize that much sweeter! Anime hyper

Now the rant... I loved this rant. I almost completely agree with it. I've recently been talking with friends and family about how movie/game/manga/anime reviewers seem to be out of touch with what's actually popular, and what's actually trash. The only reviewer I've noticed who seems to have his act together is Carlo Santos with his "Right Turn Only" column. He takes several different series, gives the back cover synopsis, then proceeds to write two reviews of the volume. One is the pros: everything he liked about it, everything that was cool, good, funny, exciting, etc. Then he writes a review about the cons: how cliche it is, lack of real story/character development, lack of anything good, funny, exciting, etc. Then gives it an overall rating. This I like. I can look at the pros, see that the series has a bunch of things I like, and think, this looks really cool/good/funny. Then I can look at the cons, bad artwork, storytelling, etc., and see if they outweigh the pros. This is my ideal kind of review, because he uses the 'cons' review to actually explain why something is cliche, rather than throwing the word around loosely. It gives me the chance to see what's good about the volume, without mention of cliches (unless they are done well), then juxtaposes that with the negative aspects of the volume, including what cliches are done poorly. This allows me to decide, very accurately, if I'm going to like something he has reviewed.

And if you've read this entire thing... hehe, thank you!
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RogueJedi86



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:28 am Reply with quote
2 things of note to reply on...

1. The flake compared you and others to Hitler very quickly. She just proved her own stupidity by violating Godwin's Law in her very first letter.

2. And the 2nd world country Fansubber, something just came to me. If he/she is really in a second-world country that is mostly poor, how can he/she afford the Broadband that is essential for watching or downloading fansubs? I'm not saying the letter wasn't legit, but Broadband internet access is the cornerstone for anime downloading nowadays, and it doesn't come at dirt-cheap prices, and isn't available everywhere.
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ArielTsuki



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:49 am Reply with quote
Cowboy Cadenza wrote:
LadySage wrote:
Cowboy Cadenza has it pretty much on the nose.

You just made my day. Thanks. Very Happy I just finished getting harassed about not seeing what's so special about Ouran High School Host Club, so coming back to see that was really nice.

Also, I've reached the conclusion that anyone who hates Honey & Clover is inherently evil.


Ouran High Host Club deserves the buzz because it does travel a road less traveled. After all the bubbleheaded heart of gold klutzy heroines that dominate the shoujo genre, a heroine Haruhi is a breath of fresh air. She's cynical, way too blunt (although she's kind too, but it makes it a bit less superficial with her personality) and she crossdresses only because it's cheaper to buy men's clothes (at the beginning at least). Very rare you'll get a heroine like this. Ouran is also one of those titles that it's best that no actual romance happens in it or it'll pretty much ruin it (*cough*FruitsBasket*cough*).

I agree that I'm shocked of how many people I found that hated Honey & Clover. Heartless bastards! (J/K)

And Zac, don't bother with them anymore. It's fun to imagine sometimes but it's downright healthy of what these people are doing. They seriously need some professional consueling. People don't usually do that unless they're terribly dissatisfied with their life.

@Ranter: While I don't like reviewers wave around 'cliche' like some flag, I don't see the problem if they can justified it. Every story is cliched in most accounts, but its the arrangment that will make one show shine thorough. For me, I'll pretty watch anything except most harem and reverse harem (one girl, many guys) shows because it rarely changes the arrangement of the formula.
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Kyaa the Catlord



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:50 am Reply with quote
I'd just like to point out that I am Satou from Welcome to the N.H.K. and it hurts that you all are making fun of me.

But my hard drive full of lolicon porn supports me and takes the pain away.

Or something. Razz
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Steroid



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:00 am Reply with quote
I weep for the fact that so many people feel a need to spit on anyone who defines their life around something other than what you do. As far as I can see, the only differences between these o-kin and some of the established religions are:

-The o-kins' sacred texts are newer and not exactly text.
-There are fewer of them.
-Instead of making the rank and file folks subservient to higher powers, they are possessed of them.

I wonder if it's this last one that really engenders the vitriol. There are people who can't stand anyone thinking that they are inherently superior. I on the other hand think that this sort of self-aggrandization is perfectly healthy and may be what makes life worth living.

Which ties back into the free anime thing.

So to Ms. Starbright, if you read this, or to any other of the kin, although I cannot count myself among your numbers, but I salute you and bid you keep the faith, and discount the philistines who rail against you so.
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God Gundam



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:56 am Reply with quote
Anyone who thinks they were once an anime character or have the abilities of an anime character needs to be put in solitary confinement, in a room where a disc plays, constantly repeating, "ANIME IS FAKE AND DOES NOT AFFECT REALITY. YOU ARE A MORON."

Either that, or you can just make fun of them and tell them how they're way too hardcore and need to get a life. Yeah, I like the latter better.
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Kyaa the Catlord



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:49 am Reply with quote
God Gundam wrote:
Anyone who thinks they were once an anime character or have the abilities of an anime character needs to be put in solitary confinement, in a room where a disc plays, constantly repeating, "ANIME IS FAKE AND DOES NOT AFFECT REALITY. YOU ARE A MORON."

Either that, or you can just make fun of them and tell them how they're way too hardcore and need to get a life. Yeah, I like the latter better.


Um, anime is not fake. It exists. I have thousands of dvds of it in my apartment. The purchases of this has reduced my bank account, therefore affecting reality....

Now if you said "Naruto is a made up character, you fricking wingnut!", you would have made a better argument. Razz
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Wandering Knight



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:06 am Reply with quote
The rant made me remember why I never read a review before watching a series. If I did, I wouldn't form anymore an opinion of my own when watching it. I always want a true reaction that comes from myself, thus I refrain from reviews as much as possible. That doesn't prevent me from reading them after finishing watching the show.

Another of the problems I've discovered about DVD reviews is that, at least here in ANN, they cover a small portion of the episodes and not the whole series. While this may help you make your money worthwhile, I really think you can't judge a series without watching it entirely. For me, it's the same as pausing a movie middle ways and making a review out of it.
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bayoab



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:12 am Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
This otakukin issue reminds me so much of Welcome to the NHK! It's creepy Shocked
I don't think NHK is actually a fair comparison because NHK is about conspiracy theories and drug induced trips. (Gonzo very carefully removed all references to that last one.) Conspiracy theorists are a completely different breed as they just put together semi-facts to reach a "logical conclusion".

And yes, the proper response to all of this, as much as i hate 4chan, is pics/video or it didn't happen (of everything). I wouldn't be surprised if this "girlfriend" is actually a figure considering how many legendary posts there are of people breaking up/cancelling dates with others over watching Naruto.
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StickyToffeePopcorn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:17 am Reply with quote
Wow, that was the first "Flake of the Week" to cause me very real physical pain while reading it.

Steroid wrote:
I weep for the fact that so many people feel a need to spit on anyone who defines their life around something other than what you do. As far as I can see, the only differences between these o-kin and some of the established religions are:

-The o-kins' sacred texts are newer and not exactly text.
-There are fewer of them.
-Instead of making the rank and file folks subservient to higher powers, they are possessed of them.


These otakukin differ from a religion in that their "sacred texts" aren't actually sacred, but admitedly fictional and mass produced works from omg Japan. It's like me believing that all forms of soda are messages from a higher power, or that my dog's barking was morse code for "kill all humans". It's a belief, but it's a frigging stupid one.

I understand where you're coming from though, and agree that these people aren't damaging anything and therefore don't necessarily need to be mocked. I also see how some people defending the Otakukin are kinda coming from the philosophical angle of how our own perception of that odd concept called "reality" could be fabricated, and that it's really just a perception everybody forms differently. However, don't you realise that your pity for us (see: "I weep for the fact...") is also undermining a choice to express disgust at their (retarded) beliefs? I believe that to fully avoid disagreements and confrontation with anybody's beliefs you need to become completely apathetic, which I'm not willing to do. Therefore, I'm going to keep calling these Otakukin kids idiots until they grow up and pay taxes.
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cheza_rose



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:41 am Reply with quote
im sorry and i dont mean to offend anyone but im like most people. i dont think i have ever laughed so hard at something so ridiculous in a long time. i think if it gets to the point in where you believe your actually an anime character in a past life or whatever it is they think, then i believe it is time to turn off the tv. and grow up. i really thought the first flake was just some random kid who was joking and actually looking to actually get on the flake of the week for a few laughs or just ONE dillusional kid. i didn't think that there was a whole click/group of people that actually think this way. wow. thats all i can say is wow. i mean, are you kidding me? people make up this stuff for intertainment purposes only not because they are linked with someone else. If that was true then how come these people dont think this way before they see the anime? These thoughts just some how come to them when they are seeing an anime for the first time? It really does make me sad to think that people can go as far as think they are an anime character and then only put it up on the internet and find there are people like them to further their dillusional thoughts. Im sorry but that is just sad.Not only is that sad but it certainly doesnt help the rest of the world's outlook on anime. heh i could have just made this a little longer and submitted it for the RANT section of hey answerman :p
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linlinchan



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:54 am Reply with quote
teh*darkness wrote:
HitokiriShadow wrote:
I was wondering were Satou from Welcome to the N.H.K. was. Or pretty much anyone else from that series.


Hehe... I won't claim that I'm Satou... but after watching that series, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who wrote the original story used me as a basis for him... Wink


Takimoto Tatsuhiko used himself as a basis for Satou.
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mike.motaku



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:31 am Reply with quote
There are a lot of people out there with no firm grasp on this whole "reality" thing some of us go on about. Matters of provable fact have been reduced to "well, that's your opinion" .People attack actors because of something a character they played in a soap opera did, so "o-kin" are not a huge surprise. Heartbreakingly sad and pathetic, but not a surprise.

In happier news, I'm pretty sure I was one of those kittens in a previous life.

Wink
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