Forum - View topicNEWS: Crunchyroll Expo to Host Live-Action Alita: Battle Angel Film's Staff, Cast
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FLCLGainax
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I always preferred Salazar with long hair.
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Kadmos1
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Considering the series isn't really set in Japan, in my eyes casting a sexy Cuban lady as Alita does not carry the issue of whitewashing.
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Punch Drunk Marc
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Well obiviously...she's not white. |
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russ869
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The only argument you could make that Alita/Gally is Asian would be spoiler[her original name: Yoko]. But it's a pretty shaky argument. Also, anybody who's keeping up with Mars Chronicle would know that Alita's true origin is much more horrifying and implies that spoiler[she probably can't even be considered human let alone a particular ethnicity. Also her full original name is revealed to be Yoko Dornburg, so if anything she would be considered German rather than Asian].
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Kadmos1
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Depending on classification preferences, a Cuban may ID as being White. |
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Chester McCool
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if people can threaten to murder a fanartists for whitewashing an alien rock from Steven Universe, I think people are perfectly valid to criticize a Japanese character being changed as well. But since this is called Alita and not Gally, it's pretty clear they're not really interested in Japanese as a whole. |
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Punch Drunk Marc
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Even with that no one is going to call whitewashing on this |
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Zin5ki
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Behold Rosa Salazar's photograph for this article. Therein she seems absolutely fine, uncompromised by any such features as worryingly oversized eyes. How woeful it is that the director had other ideas...
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Puniyo
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Didn't stop anyone from yelling whitewashing about Ghost in the Shell, a movie where the main character's body is completely artifical and there's no proof she was ever Japanese. |
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Ryo Hazuki
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Spawn or Blade aren't set in Africa but I'm pretty sure it would have been called whitewashing if either of those starred a white actor.
The manga is set in Japan, where nation states still exist, and pretty much every other character is Japanese and she's called Motoko Kusanagi. Either she's Japanese or passes as one in both the Oshii movie and the manga. Besides, spoiler[the Rupert Sanders film reveals that the Major's original body was Japanese and was named Motoko Kusanagi]. |
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GeorgeC
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She definitely looks better without the CGI eyes! Those are distracting and NOT in a good way. Just goes to show again that what looks good in a cartoon doesn't always translate well to live-action. I've seen that happen dozens of times with spandex but I STILL keep my mouth shut at cons! The success of the film will depend on the competence of the director and the competition it's set against. Right now, the odds don't look good for this film. I predict it will bomb in theaters but it might find a second chance on home video. We're not seeing the uproar that we witnessed with the live-action Ghost in the Shell BUT Battle Angel isn't as popular and as well-known as GiTS at this point. GiTS has had far more multimedia projects at this point. Battle Angel/Gunnm has had the manga and one 2-part anime OVA series? I've always been puzzled why there WASN'T another attempt to do an anime based on the original manga but apparently the manga creator isn't interested in that but will let them do a live-action project?!? Way more people will probably see a CRUMMY live-action adaptation than an animated one. If anything would damage Battle Angel/Gunnm more it would be a crummy film (live-action) that more people would see. People tend to be short-sighted with these things and they could be dissuaded from taking a chance with the source material. It happens again and again in entertainment. I'm already predicting it's going to be AT LEAST another 10 years before Hollywood takes another chance on Will Eisner's The Spirit (one of my favorite comic book characters). Thank you (NOT!), Frank Miller! I've never completely understood the antipathy that sets in towards animation after people become teenagers but that's pretty much the way it's always been for as long as I have lived. The 2-part Gunnm OVA wasn't horrible despite what the naysayers here say but, hey, you're NOT allowed to have an opinion that "violates" group-think online, are you? It was a perfectly serviceable adaptation of the early chapters of the manga. If only they could have adapted the better storylines of the manga into an anime TV series but I don't think that's going to happen. I think the time came and passed for that at least a decade ago... |
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Puniyo
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Every "other", and the Japanse film's irrelevant since it was specifically based off the manga. And everyone completely ignores spoiler[the fact the real Motoko is Japanese, and from the story perspective, it makes perfect sense why her cybernetic body isn't. ]. Because, unsurprisingly, all that matters to these people is the superficial. |
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TheAnimeRevolutionizer
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Yikes. I've had yet to say on this but wow, concerning this and well, something else COUGHCOUGHCOUGHHICOOUGHGHCOUGHHACKHACKCOUGHGUARDICOUGHIANCOUGH GASP COUGHSPICEHACKCOUGH *spits* gah, nasty illness, excuse me sorry
What I mean to say is that I hope Crunchyroll Expo turns out to be a great time!
I'd say it's a lot of things. I'm sure you know, but in the 1920s and 30s everyone enjoyed animation, even in the face of Mickey Mouse. But then came along the post World War II culture. Morality groups and pro right wing Christian sentiment were all over the damn place because they thought that the Apocalypse was imminent and that winning the war was the result of God's Divine Plan or whatever materialistic claptrap they came to impose. It also didn't help that the Tequila Bible, practically what I can say is the world's first doujinshi, and on mainstays like Popeye and Betty Boop, was also given the hammer from these rabid zealots. From that, this also mixed in with what was "truly American" or not. Comic books were forced to be relinquished by children because "they helped spread delinquency and deviancy", and let's not forget about the Comics Code. By the 1970s, while there were plenty of good cartoons and even Frink the Cat, Hanna Barbera however was selling out faster than a red light district street in downtown NYC in the Bronx in that era (yeah, NYC was pretty terrible back then) to constantly pump out celebrity and live action show tie in cartoons for the kids, and it also didn't help that the morality groups were marching in on TV as well to make things "pure and moral for the American Family". Sure you did do that, just look at how well the Jonestown Cult did. Where does this lead? When it came to all of this censorship and heavyhanded doctrine self righteous crusading by people who wanted to destroy the separation of Church and State, that was how sequential art in the States took a fatal blow, and on comes the aftermath of what this had. Because unlike anime, comics and cartoons became so watered down and made to be for the children and only for the children, there was nothing else after that to be made for fans unless they really kept on and felt something strong about what they enjoyed. Casual consumption was a complete no show thanks to this, and so this lead to the idea for the transitioning tweens and teens at the time that "well if these things are made for kids then I should just grow up from them, because they're all so kiddish and immature." Then as that goes on, it just keeps perpetuating like a bad disease. Travis Touchdown of NMH fame gave it a good name, and so it was from then on called @#%#head Disease. Granted, without this, we wouldn't have learned how awful American Exceptionalism combined with Fundamental Christian thought really was and we wouldn't have anime to enjoy as big as it is now, but still, that's how the USA doesn't have a good foothold in animation and comics, and has kinda no prominent enjoyment of sequential art right now folks. I'd also say something too about how consumerist materialism, decadent myopic self complacency and the toxic ingraining of that societal influence comes to rot the minds of people, but that's for another day. *exacerbated sigh of disappointment* |
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