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Covnam
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The Suikoden news is great. I semi-recently played the first, so I won't be re-playing it, but looking forward to finally getting around to play the highly regarded sequel with the excuse of this remake. Hopefully it wasn't over-hyped lol
I played III and loved it (that intro is still amazing too) but never got around to IV & V with their less than stellar (to say the least) reviews. I'd love to see these get some love too and maybe give them a shot. |
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BadNewsBlues
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These people were nowhere as bad as the fans crying bloody murder about how much Capcom hated Megaman because they canceled a trio of games at least two of which would’ve fallen into irrelevancy before too long.
Brrrr those poor TMNT Cowabunga & CastleVania Advance collections left out in the cold like that.
Ouch they took it back to 2009. |
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Vanadise
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But, like... in retrospect, the fans were right. Since the cancellation of MML3, there has been a grand total of one new Mega Man game (11, we're not counting the Taiwanese gacha game or half-assed re-releases of ports). One new game in 11 years following a trio of cancellations sure sounds to me like the series is dead and buried. |
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FinalVentCard
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Don't discount those legacy collections! Sure, it's easy to claim ports are all easy, but Capcom has definitely made all of the Legacy collections worth the while with art galleries, challenge modes and leaderboards. Heck, they went so far as to engineer a way to make the DS-based ZX games work on the Switch--that's a lot of work to put for games that aren't that big in the franchise! Capcom didn't hate Mega Man, they were just caught in a really weird position after the very-publicized rupture between them and Inafune; any attempt at a Mega Man game without him would've been seen as traitorous to the fandom, especially with Inafune working on Mighty No. 9. Once the heat died down, Capcom still had to figure out how to make a side-scroller work in the late '10s because it's not as easy as just making another "good" game; smaller titles like Shovel Knight and Shantae had raised the bar for what a good 2D platformer could do, and Capcom had to weigh their options as to whether a new game was worth the investment. |
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malvarez1
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I'm definitely happy to hear that Andrew Francis gets to reprise his Mega Man role...and it also makes me sad that Viz never dubbed the final three seasons of EXE. I'm still holding out hope that the series can at least get a subbed release from Discotek one day.
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meiam
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IV feel like a very generic JRPG, it's not awful but its pretty bottom of the barrel. V is full anime mode, like you have a little sister with a massive crush on the main character and everything. It also has the very weird issues where you're trying to re impose an absolute monarchy (headed by rule who are 100% magically guaranteed to go insane and are in possession of super power that let them nuke any town they feel like) on a country that's currently transitioning to something of a republic. Tactics is decent but it feel pretty limited compared to most tactics (but its a genre that peaked early and can't seem to go beyond FFT despite having been released so long ago), story wise its also tied to IV which is one of the least interesting story. In term of quality I'd go II>III>tactics>I>V>IV |
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BadNewsBlues
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And remind me by comparison how many new titles or rereleases have been given to other Capcom titles like Viewtiful Joe Dragon’s Dogma (which is finally getting a sequel after years of rereleases and multiple ports of 1 & DA) Dino Crisis Final Fight Darkstalkers Rival Schools Power Stone Omimusha Hell they’ve shown Okami more love over the last 15 years than nearly all the above titles sans Megaman.
One new game and as this writing two compilations of older titles not involving the classic or X titles. Not to mention your timeline ignores Megaman 9 & 10 came out roughly around the same time period as the cancellations of Legends 3, Universe, Online, & some of the other titles so even then Megaman fans were still getting something rather than absolutely nothing. |
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enurtsol
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Monkey Island returns after 30 years!
Hope springs eternal |
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Rob19ny
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I was going to bring that up. While it is cool that Akiko Kimura is talking to me, I would have preferred Meiru. lol
Which is why if a new EXE or RnR game were to happen, Capcom should make it Cero C (15+) for older audiences (They wouldn't make a Cero D Rockman game so no point in asking for that), but also match the growth of the audience back when EXE first released. Digimon (Habumon) took a chance targeting the older audience with Cyber Sleuth that were kids when the Digimon anime first released and Cyber Sleuth (over 800k) and Hacker's Memory combined sold 1.5 million. Considering the sales of Rockman as a series (only 6 1 million sellers), it wouldn't hurt to target a older audience. The best selling Rockman game is still Rockman 2 with 1.51 million. That released in 1988. Rockman 11 is 2nd at 1.50 million (as of June 2022) and that's on 4+ platforms compared to 2's 1 platform. Let's not forget that RnR4 (which was cancelled due to poor sales from 3 and Operate Shooting Star) was going to be more mature to target a older audience around 2009. Capcom should take a chance.
The Double Hero collection is not Switch exclusive. |
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Los Nido
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G4TV's comeback was a mess riddled with controversies, but it's ultimate fault is that it's just outdated in the era of YouTubers and Streamers. When they started hiring actual YouTubers and Streamers for their show, that's essentially waving the white flag of defeat and admitting you can't compete with them. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Pretty much. |
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Zimmer
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I kinda have hope for a combination Legends and Star Force collection, or at least that's what I'd ideally want. Also a spinoff/non-maincore collection. Really just any rerelease of these old titles.
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Klonoa1545
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One hill I will absolutely die on is that Mega Man can always use more games. And while I very much disagree that Mega Man needs to go rated M to succeed, as much as I hate to admit it I feel like the only thing that will attract new players to Mega Man is a competently done 3D reboot. I know, I know. But if someone could marry the super fun 3D gameplay of Mario 3D World to some 2.5D type segments... I dunno, it could work!
(Relatedly, another thing that Mega Man could do is finally introduce a second player option in an official game... 2.5D was super fun because of that!) Also, all I want in fighting games is for CAPCOM to do literally everything they're doing for SF6 and do the same thing for a new Marvel Vs Capcom entry. Exploration? Brawler minigames? Heck freaking yes. |
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b-dragon
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Not much of a fighting game person, honestly- rpgs are more my speed- but recent weekly Strive matches with a friend has changed that a bit. And given everything this new Street Fighter seems to have- in contrast to 5's pathetically anemic launch- we might just move to that game instead.
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Zump
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I must admit that I never got the hype for Suikoden II. I bought it off the Playstation Network years ago, played it for about 6 or 7 hours, and then turned it off to play Persona 5 (which I wouldn't call a 10/10 game by any means, but at least I played that game to completion twice). None of the characters aside from Nanami seemed to display much personality, which I found disappointing because, by comparison, even some of the weakest Fire Emblem games I've played put in the bare minimum amount of characterization (ex: the clumsy one, the ladies' man, etc.). I really feel like it's one of those "you had to be there to get it" sort of games.
I do think the new Street Fighter looks promising. The character designs and art direction strike me as a lot stronger than the last two games. |
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