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DomFortress
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:17 pm
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| Quote: | | According to ITpro, Bandai Channel is working on a new video distribution system which allows for centralized content management. It plans to roll out the system in Japan in October, followed by America, Europe, and Asia at the beginning of next year. |
So it has finally come to this; Bandai will capitalize their Gundam franchise by centralizing the online distribution of the Gundam anime series.
Not only that, they'll do so with the least amount of language support as possible via sub only of 10 languages, while at the same time switching over content distribution of Gundam through online distribution, to anime fans around the world who prefer watching anime online.
So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans?
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:48 pm
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| DomFortress wrote: | | So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:50 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully. |
Char Aznable and Garma Zabi were the bishonen of their time.
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rockman nes
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:50 pm
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| DomFortress wrote: |
| Quote: | | According to ITpro, Bandai Channel is working on a new video distribution system which allows for centralized content management. It plans to roll out the system in Japan in October, followed by America, Europe, and Asia at the beginning of next year. |
So it has finally come to this; Bandai will capitalize their Gundam franchise by centralizing the online distribution of the Gundam anime series.
Not only that, they'll do so with the least amount of language support as possible via sub only of 10 languages, while at the same time switching over content distribution of Gundam through online distribution, to anime fans around the world who prefer watching anime online.
So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
I understand getting angry about it being available in only 10 languages and a few countries, but other than that... What the hell are you whining about? Is the streaming not free or anything, what?
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:51 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully. |
Char Aznable and Garma Zabi were the bishonen of their time. |
Yeah, but I really doubt they're going to KYUN KYUN the younger girls now, who want men who look like girls. More like girls than Garma.
Anyway, I take it this is all just some internet streaming? I guess that's nice, but I still find streaming technology to be barbaric and low quality. As for Dom Fortress' argument, you can't only force DVDs and DVDs alone on people, you need incentive for people to want to buy your product. Demos, tests, previews, having prior knowledge. No one's just going to waltz out and buy Gundam 0079, the stream is so that they know the show exists.
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DomFortress
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:55 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
| DomFortress wrote: | | So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully. |
I'll see your bet and raise "female characters with curves and sexual features". 
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:57 pm
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| DomFortress wrote: |
| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
| DomFortress wrote: | | So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully. |
I'll see your bet and raise "female characters with curves and sexual features". |
That's only to be expected when your core of viewers is male. But let's stop here before you start talking about your wife or whatever.
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DomFortress
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:17 pm
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| rockman nes wrote: | | I understand getting angry about it being available in only 10 languages and a few countries, but other than that... What the hell are you whining about? Is the streaming not free or anything, what? |
The "Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet" is what I'm displeased about the most.
Just like what walw6pK4Alo said here, people will want incentive in order for them to buy the DVD releases later on. However the issue with streaming quality aside, a sub only anime stream won't make those who isn't an anime fan to watch anime. I've tried, and it doesn't work. Therefore sub-only release of anime won't help the anime fan base to grow beyond its current size, not matter what the content is and how it's distributed. And when there's no growth in fan base, there's no market growth, period.
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Josh7289
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:23 pm
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Is it free?
Are the streams only going to be available directly from Bandai, or will they be on other streaming sites, too?
May other countries finally be getting First Gundam subbed via this streaming service?
There are lots of questions still to be answered. And if anyone is familiar with Bandai's streaming services in Japan, could you answer those first two questions relative to Japan?
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rockman nes
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:38 pm
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| DomFortress wrote: |
| rockman nes wrote: | | I understand getting angry about it being available in only 10 languages and a few countries, but other than that... What the hell are you whining about? Is the streaming not free or anything, what? |
The "Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet" is what I'm displeased about the most. |
So people who watch anime on the Internet are fanatics? Seriously?... 
| DomFortress wrote: | Just like what walw6pK4Alo said here, people will want incentive in order for them to buy the DVD releases later on. However the issue with streaming quality aside, a sub only anime stream won't make those who isn't an anime fan to watch anime. I've tried, and it doesn't work. |
You mean you tried to look at subs, or were you trying to show someone a sub? Help me out here.
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DomFortress
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:38 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
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| DomFortress wrote: | | So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
If it doesn't have pretty boys, then yes. And 0079 certainly is lacking that, thankfully. |
I'll see your bet and raise "female characters with curves and sexual features". |
That's only to be expected when your core of viewers is male. |
So we've got the newer Gundam anime featuring characters from both genders looking more feminine than ever. Are they just being lazy with their character designs, or do they think that men and women all looked the same in anime(Gundam SEED anyone)?
Girls can afford to look girlie because of who they are, however this guys looking like girls in a male dominate anime like Gundam, and still managed to be attractive with the female fans is a whole new level of weird.
| Josh7289 wrote: | | Are the streams only going to be available directly from Bandai, or will they be on other streaming sites, too? |
The streaming service will be available only through Bandai Channel, that's what it means by "centralized content management".
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Kougeru
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:42 pm
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I'm curios as to what form of quality this will be in.
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DomFortress
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:47 pm
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| rockman nes wrote: |
| DomFortress wrote: |
| rockman nes wrote: | | I understand getting angry about it being available in only 10 languages and a few countries, but other than that... What the hell are you whining about? Is the streaming not free or anything, what? |
The "Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet" is what I'm displeased about the most. |
So people who watch anime on the Internet are fanatics? Seriously?...
| DomFortress wrote: | Just like what walw6pK4Alo said here, people will want incentive in order for them to buy the DVD releases later on. However the issue with streaming quality aside, a sub only anime stream won't make those who isn't an anime fan to watch anime. I've tried, and it doesn't work. |
You mean you tried to look at subs, or were you trying to show someone a sub? Help me out here. |
I meant Bandai serious catering only those anime fanatics who watch anime online, and not local populaces throughout the rest of the world. Yeah, seriously.
I only managed to get people in my local who aren't anime fans to even watch my anime DVD with the fact that it came with English dubs. No exception.
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bayoab
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:04 pm
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| DomFortress wrote: | | So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
Gundam as a whole has been dead for years. It's been a basically half-dead franchise in the states since the just after first anime boom. The DVDs haven't been "competitive" for ages. If they were, Bandai would actually be releasing them instead of sitting on them.
| DomFortress wrote: | | However the issue with streaming quality aside, a sub only anime stream won't make those who isn't an anime fan to watch anime. I've tried, and it doesn't work. Therefore sub-only release of anime won't help the anime fan base to grow beyond its current size, not matter what the content is and how it's distributed. And when there's no growth in fan base, there's no market growth, period. |
By that logic, fansubs downloads should not be growing and yet they constantly increase every year. The same is true for streaming media. Clearly you are doing something very wrong here (or are trying with people who refuse foreign media) if you can't convince anyone.
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GWOtaku
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:05 pm
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| Quote: | | According to ITpro, Bandai Channel is working on a new video distribution system which allows for centralized content management. It plans to roll out the system in Japan in October, followed by America, Europe, and Asia at the beginning of next year. |
So it has finally come to this; Bandai will capitalize their Gundam franchise by centralizing the online distribution of the Gundam anime series.
Not only that, they'll do so with the least amount of language support as possible via sub only of 10 languages, while at the same time switching over content distribution of Gundam through online distribution, to anime fans around the world who prefer watching anime online.
So is that it then? Bandai catering a bunch of anime fanatics by isolating their hobby and interest on the internet? Has their Gundam anime content finally lost their competitiveness in the DVD and Blu-ray market? Is Gundam dead to the rest of the world except in the eyes of its fans? |
Good lord. You're missing a staggering number of facts and issues here, so I'll try to explain them.
1. Bandai Entertainment has said that they're negotiating to get Gundam 00 and Code Geass out on Blu-Ray. So, there's the answer to your "is Gundam dead in disc format???" question.
2. The U.S. has gotten a DVD release for the Mobile Suit Gundam TV series in English only. It was also released in singles and has yet to be packaged up in an affordable box set. So actually, if the U.S. and Europe get classic Gundam subbed, a lot of people will be very happy with that.
3. You're trying to use anecdotal evidence to prove that online streaming is doomed to failure as a business model? Really? That's not very convincing.
4. Several Gundam anime have not seen a DVD release at all, even in the United States, the most significant one to me being Turn A Gundam. If any of them are streamed and response is good enough, that might demonstrate that there's a market for them. The worst case scenario is that fans get a legal, easy way to see them.
5. This will not be limited to old series. They've already said before that the upcoming Gundam Unicorn was getting a worldwide release (source), which happens to fit this news very well.
6. As you can see here, the ten languages already include English, French, and German in addition to the native Japanese. Those are all major, and there are six left to be announced. Not only are ten different translations extremely high for an anime, but it's for a simultaneous release on top of that.
You called that the "least amount of language support as possible," which is a fantastic and completely ridiculous thing to believe.
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