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infamoustakai
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:25 pm
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"unmarried and childless."
And what's wrong with that? Both are utter nightmares.
I'm pretty sure the minuscule amount of cosplayers aren't going to put America in a worse economic state that it already is.
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brankoburcksen
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:25 pm
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Can we please get a sketch about this on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. Pretty please, with sugar on top.
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Seif
Joined: 16 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:27 pm
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Thanks Obama.
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PseudoFiction
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:33 pm
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I was cosplaying just for fun, but now I'm cosplaying to stick it to the man.
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daoutlaw
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:36 pm
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Seif wrote: | Thanks Obama. |
didn't you know? Obama is also a cosplayer
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Sarukah
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:40 pm
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This just seems completely misguided to me, as cosplaying takes either frickloads of money, frickloads of hard work, or both. Heck, the only reason I only just recently was able to start cosplaying was because I had a job that allowed me to spend that kind of money.
I get what the article was trying to say that harsh reality leads to people finding fun things to do instead (hasn't it always been that way though?), but I don't understand how hard work/spending money equals jobless/unmarried/childless. How stupid.
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RoverTX
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:40 pm
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infamoustakai wrote: | "unmarried and childless."
And what's wrong with that? Both are utter nightmares.
I'm pretty sure the minuscule amount of cosplayers aren't going to put America in a worse economic state that it already is. |
This issue isn't that the bad economy changes people's underlying desire for children, but rather people who would have had children are rendered unable to do so. I haven't read this paper, but I have read other things relating to Japanese birth rates, and it's effects.
The other paper's themes, or side points where not
Bad Economy ---->
Cosplayers ---->
Don't Have Childern
They where rather
Bad Economy ---->
No Job ------>
Lots of Free Time ------>
Addition Cosplayers
AND
Bad Economy ---->
No Money ------>
Lack of means to support children ---->
Drop in birth rate ------>
Contracting Economy ----->
Cyclical effect
AND
Bad Economy ---->
No Job ------>
No Skills or Ability to Support Self ----->
Lack of Self Realization ------>
Addition Hikomori ------>
Drop in Birth rate ----->
Contracting Economy ----->
Cyclical effect
Its actually similar to what happen during the great depression and why the Works Projects Administration (WPA) was created. Though the addition fear there was that the free time wouldn't result in escapism and cosplay but rather crime.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:45 pm
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Even if you do have a job and relationship, children are no less of a burden.
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Bargain Hunter
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:49 pm
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Imagine the leap in economic growth the US would experience if it simply cancelled Halloween.
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FenixFiesta
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:52 pm
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Quote: | children are no less of a burden. |
oh so much so, children are not "small pet animals" they are additional PEOPLE that live in your house who can potentially grow up in a very unpredictable manner, even if they become relatively well behaved individuals (which is the best case scenario) it still is years of effort waiting for them to become self sufficient enough to leave the house.
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Ultimatum
Joined: 03 Mar 2013
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:55 pm
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Our economy is still messed up, Mr. Journalist--you can thank your generation for that.
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mgosdin
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:57 pm
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Sigh, I've encountered Mr. Pethokoukis work before. He generally is pretty good at outlining how whatever national train wreck is currently happening came about.
Cosplay is only connected to the current US economic malaise by the thinnest of strands. Yes, people have idle time on their hands because the economy isn't providing jobs for them. Yes, those same people are putting off Marriage, Buying a Home and Having Kids.
Cosplay is better than some of the alternatives for an idle person, ummm strike that, it's better than most of the alternatives.
But to be honest he really should have just left this one alone.
Mark Gosdin
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E-Master
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:00 pm
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I do like to cosplay, but I do also have intentions to one day get married and have at least one kid. I like portraying as a fictional character and I have no intentions to quit doing it because of some article claiming it's not doing the economy any good. Plus I have seen families cosplay at a few conventions before, so I know there is such thing as cosplaying for a hobby and raising a family at a same time.
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Mikeski
Joined: 24 Sep 2009
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:01 pm
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James Pethokoukis wrote: | "anime cartoons and manga comics" |
Was he writing about this in his newspaper broadsheet, or just on his web site web page?
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H. Guderian
Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:11 pm
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I agree partially with the article. I do know a few cosplayers stuck with almost no pay and no prospects in life - but in a stable relationship now. Still cosplay at a con is one f the few times when these people can rise above and be judged on something else they do.
But yeah, the abundance of cosplay can be taken as a sign of the economic times for a good chunk of the community. I think anyone trying to make fun of the writer is twisting his words.
From personally experience I cosplayed from 2005-2013 non-stop, every con I went to. It was practically required for me! But then I started presenting panels of my accumulated knowledge. I no longer feel required to cosplay, nor being left out if I do not. I know some people who would be lost at a convention if they couldn't cosplay and be the center of attention for a weekend or two a year.
Some people find the time to cosplay because they have not a lot going on and can spare the time to do so. Some people find the time to cosplay because they're well off enough to make the time.
Alright people! Let's be in control and become the people who can make the time, rather than the free time being the byproduct of economic uncertainty!
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