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NEWS: Metroid Prime: Federation Force Co-op Shooter's Late Spring Release Revealed




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falcon.punch



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:13 am Reply with quote
Wish the best of them.

Feel bad for da producer that has to deal with the fanboys.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Don't remind me of this fiasco.
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I'm not a Metroid Prime fan, but I don't get the hate for this title. It seems like a reasonable compromise between the two. Main Metroid games can be about Samus, and those that like the shooter elements of Prime can have that series focus on the GF, where it makes more sense thematically to be a FPS.

-Stuart Smith
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:59 pm Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:
I'm not a Metroid Prime fan, but I don't get the hate for this title. It seems like a reasonable compromise between the two. Main Metroid games can be about Samus, and those that like the shooter elements of Prime can have that series focus on the GF, where it makes more sense thematically to be a FPS.

People didn't really bitch about Pinball or Hunters because they were only a year to two years away from the last 2D Metroid game (Zero Mission), and in the middle of the Prime trilogy. Right now there hasn't been a mainline Metroid game in six years (whatever your feelings on that game are), and no indications that one is being worked on or even planned. If development for a Metroid game is slow or nonexistent for the NX, this and Other M may be the only game Metroid fans get this decade. People who frame all of the frustration as unreasonable or likening it to the reaction of the Wind Waker reveal are either missing the point or being deliberately obtuse.

There's a number of Metroidvania games I still want to play and catch up on, and I'm not a massive fan of the Metroid series (love Super Metroid, Fusion and the first Prime, like Zero Mission, eh to ugh about the rest). Those type of games aren't the greatest sells, either, compared to a Mario or Zelda. But I can still get a lot of fans' frustration at Nintendo because of the aforementioned reasons.
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:43 pm Reply with quote
After all the fiery outrage (all justified) that every single video of Federation Force received upon its reveal in the E3 2015 trailer, I'll be surprised if it sells well. It really wasn't smart of Nintendo to debut a spin-off of Metroid six years after the last main Metroid game (nine for those that hate Other M).
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:44 pm Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:
I'm not a Metroid Prime fan, but I don't get the hate for this title. It seems like a reasonable compromise between the two. Main Metroid games can be about Samus, and those that like the shooter elements of Prime can have that series focus on the GF, where it makes more sense thematically to be a FPS.

-Stuart Smith


Because gamers are an odd lot they damn you for doing more of the same then damn you for not.

Mr. Oshawott wrote:
After all the fiery outrage (all justified).


The hell if is especially since that outrage has more to do with the fact the game is a spin-off and not a new entry in the series and virtually zero to do with the actual gameplay. Also I don't think people whining about this game seem to acquiese to the fact that the reception to Other M is the reason they're in no rush to make a new main entry in the series.
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H. Guderian



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:27 pm Reply with quote
The outrage was a double whammy. One, the gap between main Metroid titles, and two, the guys playing it weren't having much fun. Its a very simple basic co-op game where you do very unmetroid things with a very unmetroid feeling, but has a Metroid coat of paint. Now I think FF:Crystal Chronicles was a great fun party game that my friends and I enjoyed. That was also quite a departure from what Final Fantasy meant at the time. But it was a good game to back it up.

This Federation Force simply did not sell itself at its presentation well, at all. If a game is presented poorly, it will likely get a bad reputation. There are inverse cases. Mighty No.9 was presented very well, and look where that heap ended up. Or will end up. If or when it ever comes out.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:39 pm Reply with quote
H. Guderian wrote:


This Federation Force simply did not sell itself at its presentation well, at all. If a game is presented poorly, it will likely get a bad reputation. There are inverse cases. Mighty No.9 was presented very well, and look where that heap ended up. Or will end up. If or when it ever comes out.


It's all subjective (and confusing) though look at how Megaman Universe was seen no one thought too much about the game when it was shown.....game gets cancelled a few months later alongside the 3rd Legends game all hell breaks loose.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:57 pm Reply with quote
Bonham wrote:
Stuart Smith wrote:
I'm not a Metroid Prime fan, but I don't get the hate for this title. It seems like a reasonable compromise between the two. Main Metroid games can be about Samus, and those that like the shooter elements of Prime can have that series focus on the GF, where it makes more sense thematically to be a FPS.

People didn't really bitch about Pinball or Hunters because they were only a year to two years away from the last 2D Metroid game (Zero Mission), and in the middle of the Prime trilogy. Right now there hasn't been a mainline Metroid game in six years (whatever your feelings on that game are), and no indications that one is being worked on or even planned. If development for a Metroid game is slow or nonexistent for the NX, this and Other M may be the only game Metroid fans get this decade. People who frame all of the frustration as unreasonable or likening it to the reaction of the Wind Waker reveal are either missing the point or being deliberately obtuse.


In addition, fans, both Japanese and otherwise, felt burned by Other M. They're worried that, as time goes on, Samus, as a character, will be steered in unpopular directions. Not only is this a spinoff title, Samus won't be playing a major role in it.

That is, the fans want their quiet, stoic, loner bounty hunter Samus, and they fear they may never get that again.
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