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_V_
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God help us all. . |
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Imperialkat
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This is sad to hear. More than half of the manga I actively collect are from Viz and I just got into their Sig Ikki line (good stuff there). More lost jobs is never a good thing. Hopefully this restructuring allows them to keep most of their titles.
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yamiangie
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Now I feel bad for not renewing my sub to the Shonen Jump magazine. But they have a point, there was no good addtional content to make me want to keep getting it. Man I feel like a parot repeating the importance of extras. As much as I love yugioh it bugs the crap out of me they only have extras about the cards and I don't play video games.
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Dragynstorm
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Just to let you know, there really aren't a lot of things being censored anymore. A few years ago the censorship policy seemed to have changed, so very few things are censored. And even so, it's rare that things that are censored hugely impact the story. Often I think it's a small safety net to protect the company from angry, raging parents or people who think it attacks their religious beliefs. I know pricing was brought up earlier, and that confuses me. Viz has, in my opinion, a very competitive pricing scheme. Their Shonen Jump and Shojo Beat books are the least expensive books on the manga shelves (last time I checked). If you want a very high-quality niche book, of course you're going to pay a bit more. But you really get what you pay for... nice paper, wraparound cover... I'm sorry to hear that this happened, and I wish all the best to everyone at Viz. Good luck! |
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eyevocal
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Nothing should be censored at all. Those "angry, raging parents" should be told in no uncertain terms that they themselves are the parents of their precious little crotchfruit--not the media--so they themselves should do the jobs they took on when they decided to breed. The people who think that their religions are being attacked should also be told to bugger off. If their faith is so tentative that it can be rocked by a bleepin' Japanese comic book, then their minds should change, not the publishers'. e/v. |
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Dragynstorm
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Oh, I agree, nothing should be censored. However, Viz is a business and sometimes changes have to made in order to sell books. Children can't have "real" jobs, so in order for them to be able to buy manga, they usually have to get money from their parents (be it gift or allowance or what-not) or have the parents buy it for them. That said, if a parent doesn't like the content/cover/color of the spine, there's a possibility that they will not buy the book or let their child buy the book. Personally, I think it's dumb, but I'm not a parent. They're probably just "protecting" their child from the "dangers" of pantsless little boys and bare breasts. Viz knows this, so they are simply protecting their sales. |
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suika
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Actually, after reading today's Mangablog MangaBlog that unfortunately doesn't appear to be the situation. It's the franchise series and stuff aimed at those "fickle" teenagers that are doing better overall. Probably because most people outgrow manga once they are out of their teen years. Emphasis mine:
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SongstressCela
Posts: 615 Location: Pennsylvania |
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Well ****. They have a bunch of my favorite titles...Nana, Honey and Clover, Monster...Not freaking good. >.<
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jgreen
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Well, one thing to keep in mind about those Bookscan numbers is there are a LOT of outlets that those don't cover. They claim to cover 70-75% of book sales, but they don't cover some very big retailers (like Wal-Mart) and, more importantly for comics, they don't cover a lot of specialty retailers. Comic book stores are not included in Bookscan numbers, and while the number sold to comic book stores through Diamond (the major comic book distributor) are available, I've never seen anyone try to add up the Bookscan and Diamond numbers to really complete the picture. Add on top of that that while Amazon, B&N.com and Borders.com all report to BookScan, I'm willing to bet that specialty retailers like Right Stuf or Robert's Anime Corner Store do not, and that's also a significant chunk of business that's not being counted. Brigid's main point, that pop-titles like Naruto and Vampire Knight vastly outsell well-regarded titles like the Sigikki/VIZ Signature lines, is definitely true, but I think leaping from "these books aren’t selling well in retail bookstores" to (basically) "these books aren't selling well enough to earn their keep" without having all the data is a little unfair. While this is definitely sad news, I don't think this means the end of VIZ...far from it. Hopefully this just means they're just ensuring they survive this down economy by making themselves a leaner, more competitive company. |
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ikillchicken
Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
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Damn. It's very concerning if a company like Viz is in trouble when they have the few ongoing series that can actually be considered relatively mainstream.
I agree it's concerning but on the bright side, it seems like Section 23 is going to start dubbing a lot more in the future. They're dubbing Guin Saga and going back to dub some of their older releases that we're sub only. |
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eyevocal
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Yeah--protecting them from people like me who want to read unmolested stories. Hence, my money goes elsewhere. Why don't they just license series they don't have to screw with to avoid the wrath of the masses of the asses who like feeding carpet-bagging litigation crocodiles and paralytically fear having to talk honestly with their own children? Phoquin' duh! There's also that horse hockey about, "Oh, we got the consent of the original creators to chop the living bejeezus out of their creations." Well, Viz, show some accountability to those of us with the money you want and tell us what you said to them to get this consent. e/v. |
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Generic #757858
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Uh, it's not like every single series that Viz puts out is edited. AFAIK, only a few shonen and kids manga have been censored, and even so it's been pretty minor stuff. Worth boycotting the volume, sure, but the entire series or publisher? Hardly.
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HellKorn
Posts: 1669 Location: Columbus, OH |
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Boycotting an entire company when most of the series they put out aren't censored is, frankly, stupid. You just don't buy the titles they censor, and buy the ones they give full respect to -- like, say, Viz's Signature line titles. Is that actually voting for your wallet? As you say, "Phoquin duh." |
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ZenErik
Posts: 392 Location: Boston |
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Great for the industry but bad for me. That means some of their $40 MSRP sets will go to $50 or $60.. Not really a big deal, but it's something that I factor in as someone who watches subs 99.74934% of the time. |
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eyevocal
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Sorry, but when the "Shonen Jump Advanced" *snort* line is so hacked up it makes you want to throw the book out in disgust, that is not "pretty minor." Covering up nipples in I''s, and even enlarging the one part where they were censored (as a joke) in the original Japanese book--no. Go away. Preferably out of business. Then maybe someone who cares about fans and art as much as money will get the stuff you previously used to wipe your backside and put it out the way it's supposed to be. e/v. |
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