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mdo7
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I do like sports anime, I'm watching Big Windup on Crackle and I do have other sport animes on my Hulu queue. To be honest, I don't understand why people would hate sport anime, I like them.
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PurpleWarrior13
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I'm not a sports fan (other than the occasional Tennis, Soccer, Fencing, and Olympics), but I do like some sports movies like A League of their Own. I guess I've never really given sports anime a try. I guess some avoid them because sports might seem more believable in live action, and the idea of ANIMATING it is a little off-the-walls. Notice there aren't many American cartoons involving sports.
I do like Initial-D however, even if I don't watch NASCAR (my dad does though, and I've been to some races myself). But yeah, the idea of sports anime not being successful here has nothing to do with anime fans not watching them. The close-minded people saying that have been watching too much Revenge of the Nerds (hilarious movie, but you get my point). Radio Dramas can be a very fascinating and very unique artform. They're fun to make (these days, anyone can try to make one), and the skill it takes to create a story with no visuals is more difficult than it sounds. It also takes strong voice performers. The viewer's imagination is also taken places it would never go otherwise. I wish they would catch on again, and fortunately, the internet is giving them a new life. I'm happy to hear they're still popular in the land of the rising sun. I would never "drop" anime. I mix my anime in with everything else I watch. To stop watching those, I would have to stop watching almost everything else I watch as well. With that said, slowly removing yourself from the fandoms is another story, not that I have any plans on doing that. I'm still 18 (almost 19), so you never know what my interests will be when I'm in my 20s. Last edited by PurpleWarrior13 on Fri May 03, 2013 5:13 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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asimpson2006
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I think I finally found something that I can agree with you on (didn't think that would happen). I'm pretty big on motorsports myself so I would also like to see more of them being created. |
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Mikeski
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Depends how you define "counter-culture". I hear it as a dismissive term parallel to "hipster"; counter-culture is "I like this mostly because it is obscure or unpopular, and thus differentiates me from all those other people", not "I like this for what it is, regardless of whether it is obscure or unpopular or not." I'm saying some people are wired in a way that they prefer anime/manga storytelling techniques, character types, tropes, cultural backgrounds, etc. to their western/Hollywood equivalents. And the standard sports story, even told in anime form, doesn't quite scratch that itch, thus those stories are proportionally more unpopular in the west than other genres. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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@Chagen46:
Well then watch Capeta. The protagonist is probably younger than you'd like but beggars can't be choosers. Initial D is about illegal street racing, but it involves motor vehicles being raced for sport. So it's indubitably a motorsports show. And anyway, tricked-out civilian vehicles with all their variety and coolness drifting up and down narrow poorly-graded hair-pin-plagued mountain passes sounds a lot more awesome and dangerous (and therefore more fun to watch) than a bunch of generic look-the-same racing cars go the same way 'round a wide and nicely-banked track for hundreds of laps. |
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duckdealer
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Sorry to call you out on this but it's very rare for an mma fight to end in 30 seconds or less especially in the UFC. There is also tons of hype and build-up for fights it's just done in a different way (for an exception see Chael Sonnen). I'd say comparing to sports like mma rather than sports entertainment such as the WWE would make more sense as the favourite (in manga/anime this would be the main character) team/person usually wins. However, you can often genuinely be surprised by the result or how it played out depending on how good the writing is. As for Monster coming to HBO I for one am incredibly happy and excited. Even if we just get a pilot out of it I think it will be awesome to see. Who knows it could convince Viz to release the the entire anime on blu-ray. 
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walw6pK4Alo
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There was this one OVA about rallying called Goddamn, originally penned by Area 88's Kaoru Shintani. The OVA's limited, but engaging enough. There's also Future GPX Cyber Formula, which is basically Formula-1 with super future cars. The BDs have just come out recently. Along those lines, there's Venus Wars with motorbikes. For things I haven't seen and rips likely aren't available, there's Circuit Angel and Kaze wo Nuke, both appear to be about bikes and motocross. And in finding that, I see something called Circuit no Ookami II. Stuff's out there, just rare. For more stuff like Initial-D, there's Wangan Midnight and Ex-Driver. |
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Chagen46
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Spoken like someone who's never watched a race. Also, these sure look "wide and nicely-banked", right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuka_Circuit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_Monaco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Spa-Francorchamps The Nordschliefe is 14+ miles long and rarely wider than one-and-a-half car widths, and Monaco in particular is infamous for being literally nearly one-lane wide at many parts. In addition, Monaco is the only Formula One track where someone has won because everyone else crashed before he did. One racer (can't remember his name) said that driving in Monaco was like "flying a helicopter in your living room" because the track is absurdly thin (it's built from daily commuter roads) There's more. Also they could use Rally, which never uses the same tracks because they're all made from carving out roads in the middle of nature. Actually, a rally anime would be damn interesting... |
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Lord Geo
Posts: 2545 Location: North Brunswick, New Jersey |
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If you want a "motor"sport that's off the beaten path then there's Monkey Turn. Even though Brian certainly indicated that he didn't like it (hell, I'm amazed that he even knew of it), I found Monkey Turn to be a great sports anime based on Kyotei racing. It gets pretty in-depth into how the sport works, the characters are all pretty realistic in how they act, and the races are all pretty intensely handled. The best part, though, is the pacing, which is always moving from one event to the next; there are slower moments, but the show never drags. Unfortunately, the only way to watch the show is via really, really bad bootleg English subs (which have been ripped digitally), and the second series (Monkey Turn V) has never been subbed into English. Luckily, the first show ends on a perfectly fine stopping point. There's good reason why the original manga tied with Hikaru no Go for the Shogakukan Award for Shonen Manga back in 2000... *Also, brownie points go to any show that has a song that's a blatant copy of "Where is the Love?" by the Black Eyed Peas* |
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CrownKlown
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Whoa, Karuta is not a sport. You have to be the laziest SOB on the planet to say that. I am on the fence about golf, but Karuta is a game, like chess, shogi, go etc. Not that they are not high level games worthy of respect, in some cases more than sports, but that does not make them a sport. That aside, I think the sports thing is a shame because Mitsuru Adachi is by far one of the best mangaka there is, but because all of his works are sports related the guy is pretty much unknown in the US despite having, what 4 or 5 manga turned into 50 plus episode anime. I mean he is in rare company with the likes of Takahashi with multiple hit works. |
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Lord Geo
Posts: 2545 Location: North Brunswick, New Jersey |
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Well, to be fair, anime based on games do tend to have similar executions & feels to that of sports anime, hence why titles like Chihayafuru, Akagi, Saki, & Hikaru no Go are sometimes tossed into talk regarding sports anime. If anything, I'd say that "board game anime" is a sub-genre of sports anime. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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The shows use the same structure of competition, rivals, advancing in rank, winning and losing, and all of the other fixings. The only real difference between game and sport would be physical exertion, but according to Chihayafuru, that also happens in the serious rounds when they shut off the A/C.
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I was talking about racing on proper track circuits. For example, what NASCAR fans see in the sport is beyond me. Formula One when they just race around and around a short little loop in a safe little stadium is also boring as heck.
And Chagen46, back at you buddy; you speak as though you've never watched Initial D. You think a track that gets down to one lane at times is impressive? Try a mountain pass that is only one lane throughout its entire length - it's a one-way way road with no passing lanes - and covered with wet leaves that makes skidding out a real danger. The goal of that race is for the following car not to let the leading car escape out of sight. Every other race in Initial D runs the risk of having a head-on smash with other motorists, because the roads aren't closed. The only safety barriers you have are the basic ineffectual ones the government has provided (i.e. the ones that come with the roads), and if you go through them you face sheer drops off the cliff faces with no rescue equipment standing by. Only a tiny minority of the drivers are racing professionals - 99.9% are just average joes with a driving license - and no driver uses flame-retardant clothing and helmets. Many cars do not have proper roll cages and other safety equipment, and almost no cars have the level of tyres, suspension and brakes you find on racing cars, which means it's more about driver skill than mechanical tuning. Add to that the short races - no boring-arse day-long round-and-round-and-round slogs - it makes for one heck of a sport. The idea of an Anime about professional rallying does appeal to me though.
Please go away and don't come back till you understand how chess, shogi, go and karuta are sports. There are professional go and shogi players in Japan for crying out loud. Do your research first. |
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Fencedude5609
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This is basically a question of what is the difference between a "sport" and a "game". Which I guess could be an interesting discussion, but in this situation its rather irrelevant. What we're discussing here should probably be called "Gaming" Anime/Manga. It runs the entire gamut of competitive gaming from Shogi, Karuta and Mahjong to Baseball, Football and Motorsports. Any game can be done as a "sports" anime/manga. |
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enurtsol
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Have ya guys seen the ESPN commercial about nerds and jocks?
Nobody likes discussing stats and strategies like geeks and nerds do. 
I'm surrounded by 'em and even in fantasy leagues. In school, the smartest people I know played sports too. Today, computer geeks watching the company TVs all tuned to the playoffs. As with anime, Eastern holistic philosophy and martial arts teach "sound mind, sound body" - shouldn't develop one without the other, ying and yang. However, it's just that, sometimes, fact is stranger and even more intriguing than fiction. Some of the true-to-life sports stories out there are something not even Hollywood or anime thought up. As for parting stat, oh radio dramas, video killed the radio star: 
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