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INTEREST: The Mignogna Deposition

plus I heard the news right after finishing dragonball super Broly and was pissed because I can't imagine Broly with another voice, that's also made me kinda bias.

That is a logical fallacy called appeal to emotion.

who is Hayashida again?

geepee wrote:

who is Hayashida again?

Purple mohawk guy from Cromartie High School, voiced by Illich Guardiola in the dub.

ranran-001 wrote:

Second, Vic was asked at the deposition about the rumors panel he had hosted at Tekkoshocon. He was being deceptive in his answers. Claiming that he didn't host a rumors panel, but a Q and A panel and that it some how evolved into a rumors panel. Which was dishonest, there is video of Vic at his normal panel filmed the day before telling his audience about his rumors panel that he is going to have the next day. Someone who felt the need to do a rumors panel, which was really all about himself to me is trying to do damage control, and when he was not being honest about it at the deposition it suggests he knows he has done wrong at some point.

So that's what this Tekkoshocon article is that we're still waiting on. I was curious about that.

Nykona wrote:

Those of you who think this is a conspiracy and Vic is innocent are deluded. The bullshit from the Vic supporters is stunning. A lot of immature 20 somethings who are more concerned about attacking victims than believing what is true. Those of us who know Vic personally know this is all true because we have been there. None of this is a shock to anyone, and if you actually READ the documents, especially here: And the affidavits of the twins, which is truly disturbing: READ those and then tell me you don't believe the girls.

That is a logical fallacy called appeal to emotion. Maybe you're not old enough to remember them, but this case is not anything new to the world. If you didn't believe the Duke Lacrosse boys were guilty after reading the accounts from Crystal Mangum you were a heartless monster, called a rape apologist, and other nasty things. You're operating on the notion that people are infallible and incapable of either misremembering things or simply flat out lying. Emotion has no place in law.

Everyone citing affidavits needs to at least wait until the motions to strike go through. Not everything in an affidavit is going to be admissible because there's always hearsay, conjecture, and other legal matters that cause it to be stricken from the record. Most affidavits submitted to courts are either heavily stricken or dismissed all together. For all you know most of these will either be reduced to one generic paragraph or completely stricken altogether. Until that happens, they're not worth citing or listening to. Ideally, we would all wait until the end of a case, but I know that's asking a lot of people. As it is now, people have spent the last half a year of their life being so emotionally invested in this case. So hopefully for all the people dancing the endzone right now saying it's 100% guaranteed the anti-SLAPP is going to work end up being right because it would look very embarrassing if they ended up being wrong after the amount of gloating going on in all these threads. We'll find out next week, at any rate.

Hunt said that at this event in 2007, Mignogna allegedly harassed convention guest Mari Iijima, the Japanese voice of Lynn Minmay in The Super Dimension Fortress Macross anime.

sexual assault is a real issue, a proper investigation must be conducted.
and if vic is found guilty, then he needs to go to jail or pay the price depending how serious his sexual acts were.

Given that the only people getting "emotional" are Vic fans who proudly ignore any and all corrections on litigation (testimonial evidence, definition of actual malice, the plaintiff's burden to prove defamation, etc.) and worship two clownshoes lawyers' outrage peddling ("Monica Rial wants Vic dead!"), I'm afraid you're just projecting here.

ANN contacted Jim Gogal, who was the was President of the Board of Tekkoshocon Inc. and Chief Executive Officer in 2010. He told ANN that Iijima's room was moved once during the 2010 event.

According to Gogal, “She had reported to me that Mignogna had been calling her room and showed up there at one point. She was moved to a different room inside the same hotel. This room was booked under a different name to prevent any future incidents. Iijima was also given extra security afterwards.” Gogal said Iijima remained in her new room for the duration of the event.

Gogal also stated, “Mignogna and Iijima's schedules were specifically made so they would not encounter each other at her [Iijima's] request. This was because, as she relayed to me, his past behavior and harassment to her.”

ANN sent a query to Iijima about the alleged incidents involving Mignogna at either the 2007 or 2010 Tekkoshocon event. Iijima declined to comment on the matters.

Let's be honest here, Vic could never get another VA role for the rest of his life and he'd still be more popular than most other voice actors out there. Even with this scandal his lines at conventions have been bigger and more populated than most other VAs. I only ever see Chris Sabat's lines match his. All a VA needs is that one breakout role and they can coast on it forever at conventions. Nobody really cares Vic voiced a guy in Bungo Stray Dogs any more than people care Sean Schemmel voices some background character in Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. They're known for one specific role, or in Vic's case, about 4. That's why people like them and go to convention to pay them for signings, photos, and other stuff. This isn't as much of a dig as you think it is. And if you're really going to write off Anime Matsuri as a 'minor convention' then that's just your own bias showing.

Anthony.P wrote:

Given that the only people getting "emotional" are Vic fans who proudly ignore any and all corrections on litigation (testimonial evidence, definition of actual malice, the plaintiff's burden to prove defamation, etc.) and worship two clownshoes lawyers' outrage peddling ("Monica Rial wants Vic dead!"), I'm afraid you're just projecting here.

I have no dog in this fight, but really? That comeback makes no sense. Do yourself a favor and look up the definition of the fallacy he was talking about.

An appeal to emotion is a specific type of fallacy in which one manipulates another's emotions to win an argument. Emotional appeals do not rely on facts or evidence; rather, they rely on playing on emotions.

Just read through everything regarding the deposition. I did hear stories of him in the past being hard to deal with at conventions, but assumed that was more due to personality clashes that only affected him while at conventions. But after reading all this damning testimony of his predatory behavior, safe to say his career as a voice actor is done.