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dtm42
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I wouldn't be too worried about that. The whole concept of "generations" that can be clearly defined and closely analysed is a load of crock that has little to no bearing on actual reality. |
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AsherFischell
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As someone who's studied Social Psychology at length, I can attest to that not being accurate. Trends change over time and as trends change, so do values. People are products of their environments. and when environments change, so do people. Generational differences are just like that; people being different because of changing social climates. |
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Faiga_Raisa
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Beautiful shelf set-up Jon!
Clean, neat, open, plenty of space for additions without looking barren. I dream of having this type of display. I really like how the shelves are shallow as well. So there's only an inch or two till the edge. I have book cases and there's like a good 5 inches till the edge. Like this random pic I found online: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/kyousouka/gaia/manga0501e.jpg Makes the room feel tiny and cramped. :< Woops sorry for rambling. |
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belvadeer
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Well put Asher. As someone who is thirty himself, I feel like while I can still connect with today's teenagers on some level (at least during lessons when I have knowledge of pop culture, memes and fads that they obsess about), oftentimes I see that they let their mobiles do all the talking for them. Taking that privilege away from them suddenly sends them over the edge and they act like their entire world has fallen to pieces. It's worse when they get all hostile about it and threaten to bring their parents in even though they broke the rules or brought their own bad grades on themselves. Not to mention those same insufferable teens who go around doing idiotic things they think are cool and their parents can't beat the crap out of them as punishment later due to the nation going soft with the whole "hitting your kids is abuse and you'll damage their futures" philosophy. |
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dtm42
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As someone who actually looks at real people and their social beliefs and economic circumstances instead of some birth rate numbers on a computer, I can tell you that you're wrong, and that generations are far more complex than the Baby Boomers -> X -> Y/Millennials -> Z classifications.
Of course this is true, I never said it wasn't. What I did say was that generations cannot be clearly defined, labeled and stuck into neat little boxes. Progress in the afterwar period has been too rapid and continuous to nicely break into tidy little chunks that can be closely analysed. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Yeah, you can definitely be a millennial who acts like they're from the 1950s, but still socially liberal and a luddite.
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AsherFischell
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Ah, I misunderstood. Sorry about that. I thought you were speaking specifically, not generally. |
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ChihiroFujisaki
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I thought Nyaruko was alright. It was just some silly fluff to me; though I really liked Kuuko, I'll admit. The opening themes to both seasons are also pretty catchy. That being said, I'd never buy it; it's not a show that's really worth the money.
Personally I'm really excited for when NISA will announce the release date for their Uchouten Kazoku set. Now that was a great anime! I'd also love to see them bring over some more drama anime (like they did with Bunny Drop). |
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Lynx Amali
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Nyaruko's not really for everybody. I only got hooked because of the blatant Decade and Diend in one of the first episodes. Kinda glad I stuck with it because I ended up with a new favorite insert song.
Kurogane no Striver was amazing. Doesn't help that it was a blatant Knight Blazer homage. |
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eyeresist
Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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Yes, I found the same values dissonance in Eureka 7 - the "rebels" fighting to protect an organism that was turning humanity into an homogenous blob. This may well reflect a conflict at the heart of modern Japanese culture. Rotoscoped dancing is also horribly creepy. |
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enurtsol
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Their use of idol groups is a dichotomy. Because in real life, idol music is closer to prolefeed. Idol systems are basically indentured servants, not having the freedom to do what their hearts and minds really want to sing, merely just following what their masters order them, to appease the masses no matter what with essentially a wholelottanuthins.
Kinda shows like Robot Chicken.
It's actually because humans were able to break that cycle that allowed humans to dominate. And no, humans already made too much difference in the world --good and bad-- that humans will be remembered even after our sun goes red giant and swallows up the Earth (we've already sent parts of us out in space, probes, radio waves, who knows what else in the future, etc). |
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Bluenoser
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I have to say I am in entire agreement with this. I personally loved this series, although I will admit the first season worked a bit better for me than the second, same as I found with Is this a Zombie?, but I still enjoyed it. And I loved it in no small part because it tickled me in the old school SF/Lovcraftian funnybone from those references more than the other Otaku/cultural references (although more than a few of them made me laugh too). That being said, I can see where Bamboo is coming from, but I think that this series does have more to offer than her review is indicating, but that it is also a very limited range offering as noted by Megiddo. So I would not call it perishable but I wouldn't call it shelfworthy either, but I do think it is rental level, especially if you like this sort of thing, just be aware it is not going to work for everyone, and those it does not work for it is likely to really not work for. As to the shelf worthy branding of ABB0048, I am entirely with dtm42:
I also was not that impressed with the series as the reviewer was on visual terms (I really find rotoscoping hard to take, to my vision it is very jarring) nor the music (and I love anime OSTs and such, have a large collection of them) although that is not to say the music is at all bad, it clearly is not I just am not quite as impressed with it is all I'm saying, and as dtm42 notes the characters themselves come off to me as just creepy in their need to subsume their own selves into the personas they were taking on while supposedly representing the best of individual freedom to enjoy life, I found that incredibly jarring. Mind you I've always found the "idol" thing more than a little disturbing to begin with so that doesn't help either in terms of my ability to enjoy this series because it does sell you so much on that fantasy as opposed to the underlying ugly realities that other shows underscore about that niche. I've never been able to finish the second season, and I struggled with the first. I only did that much because so many other people seemed to find it worth it, but for me, well, not so much. So for me this one comes closer to perishable than Nyarko does, but I freely admit that is only in regards to my own personal tastes. As to the final series under review, I've yet to see it, while I've heard various things about it, since I have not actually seen it I am not in a position to comment on it (yes, I know, what a concept). In any event, while in this case I tended to disagree with the reviews I still liked reading them and having them, I long ago recognized the reality that I will never agree with any reviewer on anything, nor should I, what I do look for is good substance in the review and decent detailing of the material in question and in that I am content with this column despite my own differences of opinions on the body of it. So thanks for the hard work Bamboo, it is appreciated. |
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Animegomaniac
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I agree with this completely and it's the reason why I have both seasons of AKB0048 - social horror story. I don't know anything about AKB0048 but I know enough about the Idol industry to know :1) It doesn't matter and 2) There is no 2. For example, there's the member who replaces herself with her genetic descendant, on the surface, it's just disturbing but once you start considering how it could most easily be done, you start to make some "connections"; "So they marry a guy who resembles their father and they always have girls, girls who in fact have to look like their mother?" Ehh? I mean, Eww? It's science fiction, if they just said "cloning", it would have been fine but then... And "robot girl" doesn't help either. Either the producers are completely unaware of their social commentary or it's one of the more subtle satires out there. Seeing how it was produced in tandem with the group, I have no idea which one it would be. Shelfworthy! For all the wrong reasons but, fine, be blind to the implications of competing for a vacuous life. I'll stay blind to the group itself, which the anime has only cemented my stance {The music and lyrics are writing by something akin to a Lovecraftian god? Why not?}. I'm not familiar with the show Nyarko {I wouldn't mind seeing it but CR is completely off my radar, I don't buy sub only and watching illegal downloads is kind of boring} but Nyarlathotep is a shape shifting mound of chaos than takes on the form it choses. You can't even appreciate the show as one step removed from Yaoi if it felt like it one day?
A few, some, a couple? It was "many"? Mashiro's "pet" name's a metaphor for the guy taking in stray cats {cat comparisons continue through out the entire series}; If "many" people don't get that, then "many" people need to take Critical Literature classes. If "many" people don't like the implications of some people just need the help, then I recommend blinders. They work for horses, don't they? |
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Polycell
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For the love triangle, though, I'm pretty sure that having three people longing after the main character qualifies it as a harem, even if one's already counted themself out. |
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leatherhead333
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You realize that just about everything in the first episode set the show up to be a cliche romcom right? After watching the whole series the opening episode was probably the weakest imo because it gives people a very WRONG impression of how the show will play out. I know for a fact I was tempted to drop it immediately but am glad I stuck around for the wacky ride. |
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