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NEWS: ADV Films Reveals Clannad Anime License


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Kireek



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:05 am Reply with quote
So wait........... there are people on here who are saying they have not seen the show, have not heard the dub and do not know whever it will be in boxset form on realease and they are saying it will suck???


FACSINATING.
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:27 am Reply with quote
All they need to know is that it's done by KeyVisual and they'll have full confirmation of it's suck.
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Xanas



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:34 am Reply with quote
Well it would surprise me if someone hated Air/Kanon and liked Clannad.

But I dislike people immensely who go around trolling and hating on something. I don't waste my time to hate on One Piece (which I do), or Zatch Bell (which I do). It's just stupid to waste time when I could be watching what I do like...

All these people talking about how they don't want to see something licensed because they personally don't like it are pretty self-centered.
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:30 am Reply with quote
Well, ADV can go right the hell onword and licence Clannad, but I'm not going to buy it.
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LordPrometheus





PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:32 am Reply with quote
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You're right. I haven't seriously seen this show at all.

I've seen clips on YouTube off and on. (Before I FLAG them.)

But no. I will not sit down and watch something that my consciense will obviously not agree with.


You sir, are the living definition of a "troll", and I'm going to throw "willfully ignorant" on top of that for good measure. Why do you give a crap about Clannad, and why are you wasting your time on this message board ignorantly bashing a show you've never seen?

I've wasted enough time replying to your nonsense. Have a nice life.
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maaya



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:58 am Reply with quote
Unfortunately I have to agree that Clannad was a really weak show. Bad timing, horribly flat or simply annoying (Fuko!!) characters, wannabe-drama -_-; .... but it will probably become a lot more interesting in the second season, when the not even a bit funny, over-dramaticised school life comes to an end and the adult life and real drama will begin.

The Tomoyo-OVA already showed that the series can do better and the movie also showed that the story has potential (eventhough the movie already handled the first part of the story better than the series). So I'll still be watching the second season as well - it cannot be any worse than the first, that's for sure.

So, for sure I won't buy the first season, but the movie and the OVA maybe.
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Flaed



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:43 am Reply with quote
maaya wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree that Clannad was a really weak show. Bad timing, horribly flat or simply annoying (Fuko!!) characters, wannabe-drama -_-; .... but it will probably become a lot more interesting in the second season, when the not even a bit funny, over-dramaticised school life comes to an end and the adult life and real drama will begin.

The Tomoyo-OVA already showed that the series can do better and the movie also showed that the story has potential (eventhough the movie already handled the first part of the story better than the series). So I'll still be watching the second season as well - it cannot be any worse than the first, that's for sure.


So tell me. If it was that bad, why did you watch all of it? And why on earth are you planning to watch the second season, which is going to have the exact same staff? If they screwed up the source material in the first half, why should they do any better with the second?

Maybe it's just me, but if I find something bad, flat, annoying and full of wannabe-drama, I stop watching it and do something better with my time. To paraphrase Richard J., were you forced to watch it? Did Fuko threaten you with a starfish? Did Tomoyo beat you up? Was the might of the "Dango Daikazoku" simply too overpowering?

I haven't seen Clannad and I expect it is a sweet, funny slice-of-life show with high production values and the occasional melodrama, like Kanon. If it's terrible, it's terrible, and that's too bad. But why on earth would you watch a possible fifty-two episodes (plus OVA spinoff) of something you hate? Confused Maybe the fansubs are free, but think about how much of your life you just wasted.
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_Emi_



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:25 am Reply with quote
Allow to counter act some of the negativity of the thread (Dear Lord, some of you people. Rolling Eyes ), by adding some positivity: Hooray!!! I absolutely adored Air and I'm quite sure I'll like Kanon, so I'm very eager to see this released over here. Shame that we will probably never see an English language release of the games.
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maaya



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:08 pm Reply with quote
Flaed wrote:
So tell me. If it was that bad, why did you watch all of it?


Because I don't judge a series that I haven't watched? Some series take some time to get better, as I already knew from Kanon and Air, which I liked. But unfortunately Clannad isn't really like them, at least not yet. The really poor parts of Clannad were the first arc - so I gave it some more episodes - and than the final one (which has the ridiculous over-drama that made me want to slap Nagisa). The middle part was ok and became very good during Tomoyo-arc, which in the end unfortunately didn't last long enough to make up for the rest.

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And why on earth are you planning to watch the second season, which is going to have the exact same staff? If they screwed up the source material in the first half, why should they do any better with the second?


erm, did you actually read what I wrote? I already gave the reasons. The OVA - from the same staff - was great and the story gets more interesting. KyoAni has done many other good series so far, so there is a nice possibilty of this turning out to be a good show, despite the poor first season. oO;;
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rg4619



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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Maybe it's just me, but if I find something bad, flat, annoying and full of wannabe-drama, I stop watching it and do something better with my time.


I dropped Clannad halfway through its run. However, over the twelve weeks I spent following the series, I kept hoping it would improve. After all, I liked Kanon quite a bit, and the first couple episodes of Clannad were actually decent.

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Why do you give a crap about Clannad, and why are you wasting your time on this message board ignorantly bashing a show you've never seen?


Basically, he finds Tomoyo (and possibly the portrayal of Sunohara) offensive on a fundamental level, and is chagrined at how people can support/praise that kind of misandric humor. He doesn't need to watch the show to identify what they're presenting (woman beats up weak male loser without receiving punishment in return. Audience laughs).

It's like declaring a love for violent porn in front of staunch, outspoken feminists. You can't help but draw impassioned reactions (especially if said content becomes popular as more people buy, love, and discuss it) because it offends their core sensibilities. To vent their frustrations, they'd do everything they could to attack that kind of product, along with customers/producers.

I don't share Tyrenol's viewpoint (I can sympathize with it a little though), but I can see why he's passionate with his criticism, even if it achieves nothing. Psychologically speaking, it's beyond a matter of mere taste,
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maaya



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:11 pm Reply with quote
rg4619 wrote:
Basically, he finds Tomoyo (and possibly the portrayal of Sunohara) offensive on a fundamental level, and is chagrined at how people can support/praise that kind of misandric humor. He doesn't need to watch the show to identify what they're presenting (woman beats up weak male loser without receiving punishment in return. Audience laughs).


But the difference is that this is not a typical "woman beats up weak male loser without receiving punishment in return. Audience laughs". Sunohara is the one attacking Tomoyo and she only defends herself and she's never happy about it or anything, and for that you at least have to watch a bit of the series. Personally I thought it was a pretty poor running gag, making Sunohara look more stupid than he actually is and also Tomoyo more violent than she is / wants to be. ^^;
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K.o.R



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:35 pm Reply with quote
Serge wrote:


I hope ADV do what a Bandai did to Gurren Lagann, release it fast and cheap Sub only for an awesome price, with Original Japanese Extras and everything Japanese (Including the Original Japanese Credits! ED and OP), and then later do a dual audio version with a dub (And Dub Extras, and the Japanese as well if there's any), as it seems they dub most of their shows.

I don't see it happening, because ADV Overlay EVERY Single DVD ever they've released, (Except the first print of Battle Angel Gunnm) when they first started.


Argh, I hope to god not. This is the thing that really bugs me about Bandai DVDs - want to know who helped make this show? Sorry! We're not putting any English credits on, you'll just have to go look it up. At least Funi provide a dual-angle option.

Dual angle > Credits in English only >>>>>>> Credits in Japanese only
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LordPrometheus





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It's like declaring a love for violent porn in front of staunch, outspoken feminists


At least if it was porn he would have a moral leg to stand on, but last I checked, slapstick humor doesn't violate any commonly held standard of morality.

He might as well rail against Bugs Bunny. That's how ridiculous he looks.
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tasogarenootome



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:00 pm Reply with quote
maaya wrote:
Flaed wrote:
So tell me. If it was that bad, why did you watch all of it?


Because I don't judge a series that I haven't watched? Some series take some time to get better


I was this way with Air, I didn't like it at first, but stuck with it to see if it got better. I was still a little let down, but yeah, some shows are worth hanging around for...
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Flaed



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:21 pm Reply with quote
maaya wrote:
Flaed wrote:
So tell me. If it was that bad, why did you watch all of it?


Because I don't judge a series that I haven't watched? Some series take some time to get better, as I already knew from Kanon and Air, which I liked.

There's a difference between judging something you haven't watched; watching 3 - 5 episodes and deciding whether or not it is for you; and downloading an entire show, watching it, and then declaring it really wasn't worth your money or really very good at all. . .but you're going to download the second season.

My very very very favorite show is Princess Tutu, which takes about five episodes to get off the ground, so I'm very aware it takes certain shows more than an episode or two to find their footing. On the other hand, the first five or so episodes are usually representative of the rest of the show. . .the only exception really being when a show suddenly deteriorates in quality. I've seen shows that are supposed to improve dramatically at, say, episode thirteen or twenty, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case for the ones that I've seen (Witch Hunter Robin, Fullmetal Alchemist). They both get darker at those points, but stay pretty much the same.

On the other hand, I really disliked the first two episodes of Air but I am perfectly willing to watch more, partly because that doesn't seem to me to be enough time to judge it, but also because reviews I've read indicate that, yes, the rest really is much better.

maaya wrote:
erm, did you actually read what I wrote? I already gave the reasons. The OVA - from the same staff - was great and the story gets more interesting. KyoAni has done many other good series so far, so there is a nice possibilty of this turning out to be a good show, despite the poor first season.


I guess what I don't understand is the willingness to sit through twelve hours of something you think is bad because maybe there might be twelve hours that you enjoy coming along. If half of a show is poorly done and executed, it's still a terrible show.
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