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DKL
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The flat dream is dead 
But yeah, still getting it. I would prefer an unmodified product, but my laziness to learn Japanese or actually communicate with Nintendo overcomes the potential issues. |
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Lady Multi
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RIOT!!!
No really, I don't care. The beauty of this game I'm looking for is not character customization but the world the game is in. |
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Lili-Hime
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Came to post this too. I always try to make my characters look like me because it helps immersion and having less options is always lame. Boobs exist Nintendo; nothing inherently sexual about them >.> Last edited by Lili-Hime on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:37 am; edited 4 times in total |
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ikillchicken
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As people have pointed out, there's nothing inherently sexual about being able to modify the size of a character's breasts. An in depth character creator should let you modify all aspects of your character to create whatever body type you want. It's silly to remove breast size just because some people could use it in a pervy way. These are all valid points in the general sense. That said, as it applies here, this line of thinking is entirely contingent on the game actually featuring an in depth body customization system. And from what I've seen, it really doesn't. It pretty much limits itself to little more than surface level changes on top of a generic body template. That being the case, any real pretense toward the above justification goes out the window. This is for titillation plain and simple. It's there not so people can create the body type they want. It's there specifically so horny guys can make a character with the boobs they find the most attractive. Thus, this is really just another case of Nintendo cutting out pervy stuff from a game for it's American release. And while I do generally prefer they don't edit games for the west, I also would prefer that their games don't include this crap in the first place so...eh. The end result is good at least.
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Lili-Hime
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@ikillchicken
Screw it I'll make a new post. Anyways I totally disagree. FF14 doesn't let you change body type outside of height and muscle definition, but it has a boob slider. Only three options. Does that mean that FF14 is only for guys making their waifus? Me and a lot of other girls I know play or have played. A few of them wanted to make their boobs bigger to match the size they had (or wish they had) lol For some weird reason default boob size in that game was really small I woulda been pissed if I couldn't up it a little.
I played Lala for a brief time before going back to human. The slider is there but I know from experience it does pretty much nothing. |
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DuchessBianca
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Hey! I'm as flat as can be and proud of it, not everyone wishes they were bigger and now the default size is too big to recreate myself in avatar form haha But yeah this change is beyond stupid and I was already on the fence about buying this games for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with censorship but this certainly doesn't make me happy especially since nintendo like usual will refuse to comment or explain why they made the change unlike Atlus, NISA and IF who all were open an honest about censorship reasons with their specific games. This change is just stupid, games are getting more violent then ever but its always anything that has to do with the human body that needs to be altered or removed and a society that finds the human body more wrong then extreme violence is a society I have to shake my head at. |
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ikillchicken
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@Lili-Hime
Well look, I'm certainly not saying the whole game (be it this or FF14) is only for guys making waifus. Just that this is what this one aspect of the game specifically exists for. It's just tough for me to believe otherwise when the game offers so little other significant body customization. A game that at least also lets you adjust muscle tone too is a little better. I can see after height and muscularity maybe going to breast size as the next most prominent feature. Or at least you're in the ballpark. When you can't even choose between a pencil thin body and a heavy set one though, but you can set the breast size...yeah. It seems pretty clear they're not interested in letting people create the bodies they want. They're just interested in letting them create the boobs they want. Of course if you find it helpful regardless then that's fair enough. I guess it is still better than nothing. To me it seems a bit insignificant though. Like, if a game isn't gonna let you actually customize your character's body in a meaningful and complete way, they might as well just go with a universal template. That's just me though. |
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enurtsol
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Seems the West cares more about censorship than Japan.
Japanese don't care that, for ex., Metal Gear Solid 5 are censored. Nintendo just following Japanese philosophy - don't care for censorship? 
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Beatdigga
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SNES was a long time ago, and yet they're still doing the same thing.
This isn't about boobs so much as needless removal of options to maintain an image, even as console sales are in the dirt for N. |
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StregaMember08
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The only problem I have with this, aside from the sheer immaturity of this move, is it brings up concerns about more important things about the games localization. If they felt the west is unfit for something like this then heaven knows what they'll do to censor story elements they think we cannot handle without being offended.
Between this and the removal of religious names like Testament make me wonder it we're getting a authentic localization. I really hate being this pessimistic, but the more I hear about it the more concerned I get. |
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Razzuel
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Like others have said, there's nothing inherently sexual about breasts. Also, the character creator probably isn't in-depth because Monolith Soft wants everyone's created character to stay in line with Kunihiko Tanaka's character designs.
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Fronzel
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When can we expect "The X Button" column where Todd Ciolek calls the original version "creepy" and says we shouldn't care about censorship because it's something he doesn't like?
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Kikaioh
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Pretty much this. Nintendo was likely well-aware of the pervy reasoning behind the inclusion of the boobs-specific slider in an otherwise stripped down character creation mode, and decided against it for the West. Personally, it bugs me when sex gets shoehorned into things just to pander to people's libido, it's a distracting nuisance (so good riddance to Lyn's underboobage armor bikini). |
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DuchessBianca
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The problem with this line of thinking is that the pervy costumes are STILL in the game, every character including the MC still has access to the full array of swimsuits and other fanservice like outfits with the exception of Lyn so if Nintendo was actually trying to "clean" up the game or maintain an "image" how exactly is removing an innocent bust slider but leaving in the much more fanservice outfits help nintendo in that cause? Saying that the bust slider was only included just to pander to people's libido" is also ingenuous too because multiple woman myself included have said in this thread that effects them, if pervs want to make a character just too see that character half naked they still have that option available but the answer to a limited character creation isn't to limit it even more because of a few people might abuse it for other reasons. |
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Juno016
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I can't tell from the way you wrote this if you meant to say that they kept "Nowi" in or the opposite, that they changed her quite a bit. In case it isn't obvious to people reading (I've played both language versions), Nowi's original name is "Nono", which may or may not have been a way to make her feel less "childish". Her background is generally the same, but her speech patterns in Japanese were extremely childish to a fault while her English speech patterns were more... average and sisterly. At least, in comparison to each other. I assume this huge contrast was simply to lessen the whole child factor on a character who will eventually reproduce and have her own kind in the suggested few year span of the game. Despite being as old as she is already, anyway. The other censorship you mentioned was just them censoring a picture in a DLC where the back lower half of Tharja's bikini was exposed. The curtain, I believe, covers it. For #FE, I don't think there will be too much, but I can see minor censorship here and there. They can't really edit personalities as much, though, since it's vocal.
Having only played through a little over half of the Byakuya route and getting all S/A+/A ranks with the adults up to that point, I can see one major thing being slightly changed, but considering what it is, I'm not really sure anyone would be bothered by it. It's a major element of the general story, but not really relevant to the plot, so it's up to you to spoil yourself: spoiler[The children of the main families are actually conceived during play, meaning the parents have actual sex, and the children are born during the story. The children are then sent to a pocket dimension in their world where time flows differently and you pick them up when they are older. OBVIOUSLY, for characters like the little sisters, whose age is still unknown, but whose looks and manners emit a "loli" personality... this part of the story may be changed so that either they aren't "loli" or the way things work is slightly different.] Overall, it won't affect the game itself or the plot, so if you think it'll bother you, just pretend the original concept in the Japanese version is actually what happens. I'm sure that the same localization team for Awakening is making if/Fates, so I doubt that'll be the biggest change in the game anyway. Awakening was STILL a great game in English and the English script was quite a successful adaption, even if it was drastically different in many parts. If they change things like that again, I do hope it's in the same vain as Awakening. ...For the most part. ...I came here to comment on Xenoblade, so... I also know someone who loves Xenoblade and she actually just recently talked about how she hates older character customization features that ignore bust size. She's got pretty huge breasts herself, so I'm afraid to tell her about this news. Of course, the customization looks extremely weak anyway, but this would be just another nail in the coffin... |
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