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DatRandomDude
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Sure, it would have been amazing that an anime won but Spider-Verse deserved it more than all of them this year so congratz for not being shitty for once Oscars.
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GeorgeC
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I agree about the Oscars. THey're irrelevant for most people. Awards shows are popularity contests... What really drives people away is the ego on display of a roomful of very immodest people and the length of these things. Very few people enjoy sitting through 3 hours of TV like that! Most people in the entertainment industry hate these shows, too, but it's endured for the producers' sake and the guys who PAY for the awards. The Oscars are a huge scam. As for the Spider-Man animated film, I wouldn't even go see it. Just seeing that trailer makes me physical ill. It's very jerky animation as if it were shaky-cammed for the whole film. I don't like it in live-action, the fact that they use it for an animated film doesn't make sense, either. I don't agree with the artistic choices made there and Sony and Marvel have given me very good reasons to be skeptical about some of their films lately. If they don't check their arrogance and learn something about their audience, the tide will turn against the MCU this year... |
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Scion Drake
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I’m not really sure what you implying Marvel has to learn. Arrogance what, they are just doing things as normal, nothing wrong. |
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HeWhoSlapsAll
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No American bias in this case. I watched every movie nominated, and Spider-Verse was easily the best and most memorable. At least, that's my opinion. |
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all-tsun-and-no-dere
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The choppy animation: a) was a deliberate artistic choice, which worked out very well in my opinion b) was one of many extremely innovative animation techniques throughout the film c) has an equivalent or higher framerate than most anime I'm totally burned out on superheroes, but Spider-Verse was a delight and one of the best movies of the year. I'm thrilled it won. |
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kotomikun
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I don't really care, personally, having seen neither of these movies, but given that the title of this article is "Into the Spider-Verse Film Wins Oscar Over Mirai," ANN itself appears to be inviting people to get into this argument. No one with much experience with the Oscars would have expected Mirai to win, regardless of whether it deserved to, so I'm not sure why else that would be in the title, unless it's just to curb the inevitable "but what does this have to do with anime???" comments. The general public seems to be happy with this choice, at least, and that's about the best we can hope for from the animation category. (Unlike the Best Picture winner, which seems to have launched the internet into a frenzy.) I was kind of expecting Isle of Dogs to win (though I haven't seen that one either) because of the weird artsy niche Wes Anderson factor. |
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jdnation
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I think you should give it a chance, you might be pleasantly surprised. It's good and led by good characters and story and not any social politics if that's what you're worried about. The animation is low framerate compared to most CG flicks and is done deliberately to imitate hand-drawn 2-D animation for which there are actually lots of 2-D animation mixed in. So if anything, it is actually being more appreciative of the craft of traditional animation and artistry. There's a little featurette on this here if you're interested. https://youtu.be/vDjvhwgbsP8 More in-depth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N21oG99eF3A |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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I'm less disappointed Mirai lost than I am that Maquia was snubbed by all the award shows this year, even the Crunchyroll awards. But Spideverse definitely deserved this win.
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supersqueak
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I didn't see Mirai but I feel like Into the Spider-verse was really over hyped. I hate to be that person but I was more interested in Peter Parker's story than Miles's and I am basically disappointed that they didn't model Miles off of the real life inspiration Donald Glover.
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Covnam
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I enjoyed Mirai, but it wasn't amazing and I wouldn't have expected it to be the winner here.
I haven't seen Spider Verse yet (waiting for the digital release (this week I believe)), but I've only heard extremely positive buzz from those who have seen it. |
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Jose Cruz
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It's not "bias" anyway. The Oscars are a self promotion event for the North American film industry, the people who vote for the Oscars are all employees of that industry. Obviously that movies made by then will win. I find it puzzling that fans of Japanese animation still have some hope that these employees from this North American industry, whick does not regard animation as a serious artistic medium and as result does not produce any serious animation, are going to vote for some animation made in a foreign culture that operates under very different sensibilities. Comparing a film like In this Corner of the World with the animated stuff Hollywood puts out is like comparing Beethoveen with Britney Spears. Anime fans reactions would be like classical music fans upset that some orchestra perfomance did not win the Grammy's. In both cases the difference in understanding of what the medium is is enormous. I am not saying that anime is "better" than Hollywood's CGI children's movies, I am saying that expecting employees of an industry that thinks animation is synonymous to CGI children's movies are going to carefully appraise auteur animated films is by itself nonsensical. Anime fans should stop paying attention to this kind of prize. ANN should only report the Oscar for animated film if an anime film wins, otherwise there is no point: there exists hundreds of animation prizes given around the world, why this obsession with Hollywood's prize? I guess this obsession comes from the fact that North American fans of Japanese animation feel this ardent desire for the medium to be recognized by the North American film industry, an industry that does not even produce any films that compete with the Japanese animation that anime fans like (obviously, the children who watch Disney's movies and the people who watch Gakudolls are not the same public, I should also point out that Japan also produces it's fair share of children's CGI animated movies, which anime fans never talk about). By the way, China produces about 5 times more CGI children's movies than the US or Japan does. Why the ANN does not report when an anime film loses to a CGI children's movie at some random Chinese award's prize? It's basically the same thing. Last edited by Jose Cruz on Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Jose Cruz
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I never said it was the result I wanted. I personally do not care at all about the Oscars, I just find it curious that North American anime fans are so obssessed with it. You should not assume things about other people, it is rude Also, ANN does not report the vast majority of animation prizes given around the world. I guess the Oscar's is a kind of a sacred cow to Americans. Being Brazilian I always find it puzzling why Americans are so obsessed with it, even American anime fans are obsessed with the Oscars. It is weird because anime fans watch anime because it is something that does not EXIST in Hollywood, hence, it is something that does not exist inside the minds that award the Oscars. That is like classical music fans obsessing about the Grammy's. |
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MoonPhase1
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I hated Spider-verse, Mirai was just ok. I feel like the best Anime movies of the year were either ignored, didn’t get Nominated or not having a qualifying run in theaters to be eligible. Isle Of Dogs was good though.
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Crystalyn
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We do try to report on any animation awards that feature an anime as a nominee or winner, anywhere in the world. Often a lot of those fall outside our radar because the information isn't in English or Japanese. If you think that we've missed writing up something that fits that criteria, you can always email us at newsroom [at] animenewsnetwork [dot] com. We always welcome, and are grateful for, news tips from our readers. |
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