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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:11 pm
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Bottom line is as follows:
Canada is not a safe country to be bringing in doujin and certain types of anime. The law is not exact and will be subject to
interpretation, and you can be sure that interpretation WILL NOT be in your favor.
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darksharingan
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:16 pm
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I don't know what they're afraid of, it's not like FUNimation, Viz or any company licenses and dubs anime depicting extreme levels of sex, these laws really are vague. And so what of there's sexual innuendo or even fan service? Go to a beach in the summer and you'll find 14 year old girls or younger showing a lot of skin, the anime that's brought over shows pretty much that.
When it comes to nudity, at the end of the day they're just drawings. Is it really worth any kind of fuss? Not that I get aroused at stuff like that but it's a 'so what?' thing.
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BitShifter
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:43 pm
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Dakaran wrote: | Things are pretty cool around here, and I haven't had problems with laws when reading, watching TV or internet shows. It comes to using your head for common sense and apply it to what you do.
As long as you don't abuse your way out of the system and the laws in place you will be fine. |
Exactly; it really is simple. Don't write any words that government/society doesn't want you to write, don't draw any pictures that government/society doesn't want you to draw, don't read any words that government/society doesn't want you to read, and don't look at any drawings that government/society doesn't want you to see. And while you're at it, don't fantasize or have any thoughts that government/society doesn't want you to have. Remember--they're only after the perv-y stuff, which we all know when we see it, and is universally defined. It's not like they're going to come after your Negima.
Of course, in the latest Negima volume, Rakan-san uses his "silent strip" technique to remove the panties from one of Fate-sama's apparently underage magic girls, then sniffs them and licks them. But there's nothing sexual about that; I'm sure that no border guard is going to misinterpret that comical scene as something perv-y or illegal.
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Nemo_N
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:49 pm
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BitShifter wrote: |
Dakaran wrote: | Things are pretty cool around here, and I haven't had problems with laws when reading, watching TV or internet shows. It comes to using your head for common sense and apply it to what you do.
As long as you don't abuse your way out of the system and the laws in place you will be fine. |
Exactly; it really is simple. Don't write any words that government/society doesn't want you to write, don't draw any pictures that government/society doesn't want you to draw, don't read any words that government/society doesn't want you to read, and don't look at any drawings that government/society doesn't want you to see. And while you're at it, don't fantasize or have any thoughts that government/society doesn't want you to have. Remember--they're only after the perv-y stuff, which we all know when we see it, and is universally defined. It's not like they're going to come after your Negima.
Of course, in the latest Negima volume, Rakan-san uses his "silent strip" technique to remove the panties from one of Fate-sama's apparently underage magic girls, then sniffs them and licks them. But there's nothing sexual about that; I'm sure that no border guard is going to misinterpret that comical scene as something perv-y or illegal. |
This whole post is awesome.
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Redlinks
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:54 pm
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GhstDreamer wrote: | This reminds me that being an arts teacher, I was going to show my 12 year old students Spirited Away because as part of the art curriculum, they need to do a comparison between Disney and Japanese animation. I figure Spirited Away contains important messages that can promote class discussion and it would've also keep the students' attention since many of them has never been introduced to animation besides American animation. However, administration told me it's not an appropriate movie to show children and this came down from the district board office. The scenes are too frightening and there's smoking in it. |
Cause Spirited Away is the scariest movie ever. I hate stupid people like that. They clearly don't see the message that's in this movie. Though I can see why. I remember watching this movie in theaters and I do recall hearing a few kids crying at the "scary parts". But they were only like 2 or 3.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:57 pm
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BitShifter wrote: | Of course, in the latest Negima volume, Rakan-san uses his "silent strip" technique to remove the panties from one of Fate-sama's apparently underage magic girls, then sniffs them and licks them. But there's nothing sexual about that; I'm sure that no border guard is going to misinterpret that comical scene as something perv-y or illegal. |
Unless you're unlucky and he's anime savvy. However that might be at being close to scrapping the line of explicit, if there is no actual depicted sexual penetration I think it will be okay. Again one might be unlucky though.
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doc-watson42
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:08 pm
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Dakaran
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:21 pm
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TarsTarkas wrote: | Bottom line is as follows:
Canada is not a safe country to be bringing in doujin and certain types of anime. The law is not exact and will be subject to
interpretation, and you can be sure that interpretation WILL NOT be in your favor. |
The law is exact and precise about everything on it in Canada concerning that stuff. We use common sense and it works great overall. As long as it doesn't deprive the children from a healthy growth and does not arouse adults like it would be porn I don't see a book or anime rejected for personal view or on TV. (airing time would change a bit if more mature I think)
That's the law for British Columbia but I live in Quebec, so some stuff are a tiny bit different.
Quote: | According to the courts, material will generally fail the community standard of tolerance test if it portrays sex with violence, or if it portrays sex that is degrading or dehumanising and the risk of harm is substantial. |
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d9/d9-1-1-eng.pdf
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jsyxx
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:23 pm
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Canada is becoming a freedom of speech and civil liberties nightmare. I really wouldn't even visit that country now. They really need to re-haul some of their laws. The only thing they got right in the past several years was allowing gay mariage.
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The_Q
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:41 pm
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Nemo_N wrote: |
BitShifter wrote: |
Dakaran wrote: | Things are pretty cool around here, and I haven't had problems with laws when reading, watching TV or internet shows. It comes to using your head for common sense and apply it to what you do.
As long as you don't abuse your way out of the system and the laws in place you will be fine. |
Exactly; it really is simple. Don't write any words that government/society doesn't want you to write, don't draw any pictures that government/society doesn't want you to draw, don't read any words that government/society doesn't want you to read, and don't look at any drawings that government/society doesn't want you to see. And while you're at it, don't fantasize or have any thoughts that government/society doesn't want you to have. Remember--they're only after the perv-y stuff, which we all know when we see it, and is universally defined. It's not like they're going to come after your Negima.
Of course, in the latest Negima volume, Rakan-san uses his "silent strip" technique to remove the panties from one of Fate-sama's apparently underage magic girls, then sniffs them and licks them. But there's nothing sexual about that; I'm sure that no border guard is going to misinterpret that comical scene as something perv-y or illegal. |
This whole post is awesome. |
Agreed. It's been a while since I've seen such ownage in a single post.
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keikanki
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:42 pm
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Dakaran wrote: | The law is exact and precise about everything on it in Canada concerning that stuff. We use common sense and it works great overall. As long as it doesn't deprive the children from a healthy growth and does not arouse adults like it would be porn I don't see a book or anime rejected for personal view or on TV. (airing time would change a bit if more mature I think) |
Okay, okay! We get it. The law is bullet proof. Canadian lawmakers don't make mistakes. If Canada criminalizes loli, the only people who still have loli will be criminals.
If we tell you we all believe you and have unquestioning faith in Ottawa, will the defensiveness go away or will you still feel it?
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GATSU
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:42 pm
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So virtual underage porn is bad, but having an age of consent of 14 is ok?
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:42 pm
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Dakaran wrote: |
TarsTarkas wrote: | Bottom line is as follows:
Canada is not a safe country to be bringing in doujin and certain types of anime. The law is not exact and will be subject to
interpretation, and you can be sure that interpretation WILL NOT be in your favor. |
The law is exact and precise about everything on it in Canada concerning that stuff. We use common sense and it works great overall. As long as it doesn't deprive the children from a healthy growth and does not arouse adults like it would be porn I don't see a book or anime rejected for personal view or on TV. (airing time would change a bit if more mature I think) |
The laws are no more exact, then similiar ones in Australia and
the United States. What one considers obscence really comes
down on who exactly is the one judging you. The only common
sense on this matter is not crossing the Canadian border with
anything that could be even considered slightly suspect.
Better to be safe, than have your life destroyed.
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Dakaran
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:43 pm
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The_Q wrote: |
Nemo_N wrote: |
BitShifter wrote: |
Dakaran wrote: | Things are pretty cool around here, and I haven't had problems with laws when reading, watching TV or internet shows. It comes to using your head for common sense and apply it to what you do.
As long as you don't abuse your way out of the system and the laws in place you will be fine. |
Exactly; it really is simple. Don't write any words that government/society doesn't want you to write, don't draw any pictures that government/society doesn't want you to draw, don't read any words that government/society doesn't want you to read, and don't look at any drawings that government/society doesn't want you to see. And while you're at it, don't fantasize or have any thoughts that government/society doesn't want you to have. Remember--they're only after the perv-y stuff, which we all know when we see it, and is universally defined. It's not like they're going to come after your Negima.
Of course, in the latest Negima volume, Rakan-san uses his "silent strip" technique to remove the panties from one of Fate-sama's apparently underage magic girls, then sniffs them and licks them. But there's nothing sexual about that; I'm sure that no border guard is going to misinterpret that comical scene as something perv-y or illegal. |
This whole post is awesome. |
Agreed. It's been a while since I've seen such ownage in a single post. |
Americans really love a la Jerry Springer drama eh? I understand you fought your wars to establish your country but it's about time to let it go and not poke fun at serious statement.
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AntztheGreat
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:43 pm
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Hey, if these guidelines prevent Strike Witches from being brought into Canada then I fully endorse them.
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