Forum - View topicINTEREST: Yaoi Paddle Kickstarter Aims to Revitalize Anime Fandom History
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SenpaiDuckie
ANN Community Manager
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... Bruh, I will admit that I am a doujinshi/yaoi fan but I wouldn't even support this Kickstarter D:
... I think this guy needs to know something: the customers who mostly consume yaoi products are women. D: If he wants to make a product under this category, should seriously cater the immediate customers, or something! Idk guys-- this just melted my brain cells DX I'm curious now how he's even going to make this product WHOLESOME~ I can't even... *currently still processing that such things exist* >.< |
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tailor31415
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"spanking accessory" is that what they're called for fraternities and sororities? because they have them decoratively to this day and no one mocks them for it
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Picky33
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I remember hearing “get your Yaoi Panels here” sung at every anime I went to on the east coast. For my group it’s one of those things you dared everyone to buy like a Sheryl temple for the biggest guy at a bar.
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MagicPolly
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I never said it needed to be carved from scratch by hand, you can get a canoe paddle for around $20 on Amazon. I can't imagine the Kickstarter version would end up very different from it |
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Lady Multi
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Nothing says like showing your love for something like sending someone else to the hospital.
DON'T BUY THESE! And if you don't DO NOT TAKE THEM TO CONVENTIONS!. Most Conventions have these in Banned props due to incidents in the past that involved people being SERIOUSLY INJURED! Someone was put into a Wheelchair because of these. Reviving these are very very VERY bad idea.. Only buy them or support the Kickstarter if you want to get sent to jail for assaulting someone with a paddle like the person who crushed someone's tailbone >.<. EDIT: honestly, I'm REALLY disappointed in ANN for not even mentioning this history in the article you know the whole.. SENT TO PRISION FOR ASSAULTING SOMEONE with a paddle as a joke thing. |
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Zerreth
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No Henry, "we" did not, and the entire reason they were banned is because we did not, so this is most definitely fully acting in bad faith. Hen Da Ne not only propagated but was one of the key sources of toxic 2000s anime con culture. I hope for the kickstarter to get rightfully shut down. |
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Lady Multi
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Honestly, I'm not one for reporting things on Kickstarter, but I did, honestly, report the paddles on Kickstarter given the history. I'm 40 year old; I'm well aware of the very bad history and the many reported injuries of the Paddle history... People did NOT ask for consent to paddle and thus the infamous incident. People destroyed their paddles spanking people... >.< meaning.. .they didn't TAP... they SMACKED. There is a reason they're in the weapon's policy of Anime Cons. |
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Lady Multi
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You clearly know nothing about the BL genre. You're biased on your perception of it. 95% of "yaoi" is nothing like you said and is just a generalized Romance trope that is also in Yuri and Straight romance... Just like how all hentai aren't full of tentacles. 
"yaoi" btw is just the super smexy stuff. It's just BL hentai. |
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Gemnist
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Guilty as charged. "Teenage" is probably an exaggeration (most of the "subs" are legal), I've just seen a lot of clips that indicate what I described. I'm not 100% against yaoi though; Doukyuushi from a while back looks visually interesting, and there's that one from this season (Sasaki and Miyano, I think it's called) that seems delightfully wholesome by comparison to other shows. Still though, a lot of the yaoi (and yuri) shows still speak to a fetishization of homoerotic material, like it's something to be jerked off too rather than something to be taken seriously or enjoyed for "normal" sake. Part of the reason why Bloom Into You got so successful is BECAUSE it took its characters seriously and portrayed an uplifting story that didn't rely on fanservice. I'm just saying, more stuff like that, and less stuff that just serves as a painful reminder of how homophobic Japan continues to be. |
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Zalis116
Moderator
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I fully respect the much-maligned "yaoi fangirls" and their contributions to the convention scene over the years -- monitoring/supervising some of those "Yaoi After Dark" panels as staff was always a wild time. But some things are best left in the dustbins of history, or in the case of Yaoi Paddles, the 3-Story Concrete Sarcophagus of History. But now, there are those like Henry AL who would disturb that tomb and unleash ancient horrors upon the world again. I guess that those of us in the convention-running circuit will have to be on our guard against the paddles' return, as with a forgotten and eradicated virus being reintroduced to a population grown complacent under herd immunity. Though if this KS does succeed, can they at least find a font other than Comic Sans to use??
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TheOtakuX
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You know 'buying' and 'using' are two different things, right? I want one to put on a shelf, not to take to cons (not that I could if I wanted to anyway). Just a nostalgic reminder. |
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Puniyo
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BL is certainly a genre that thrives in manga and hasn't gotten a lot of decent rep in anime quite yet (though Given is a fantastic example imo - haven't seen Sasaki and Miyano yet - also the series you mentioned is actually Dokyuusei), but there are two angles I want to approach this from: one is that the genre has evolved in leaps and bounds since the early 2000's, with many artists taking onboard criticisms and clarifications from the LGBT community, with many of the more harmful stereotypes and concepts rapidly disappearing from modern stories and falling out of favour with readers. the other is that, it's fine for trashy stuff to exist. You might wanna sit down for this, but: LGBT people jack off too. It's not like all or even most of straight media is careful portrayals of relationships or sexuality either (on average it's likely much worse. Like man... take a glance at shoujo manga), and it's fine for the story equivalent of junk food to exist too - I don't think BL and yuri should be held to some special standard where only 'pure' works are acceptable. A lot of the point of sexuality, is, well, sex. Plus some people's outlooks on such stories are just different - as a bi woman I find the 'wholesome flowerchild' brand of yuri stories to be just as fetishistic in the opposite direction (in the sense that most yuri media is 'girls are pure uwu' and is just as unrealistic). Others may perceive it differently though, and that's fine too. In apology for being somewhat off topic - in the UK I ended up totally missing experiencing this phenomenon. It's probably fine if people just have them for home decoration/memento if they have memories of that time and never bring them to cons, but it's still very not cool to make them expressly against the wishes of the original creator. |
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Ming Yi
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??? There's BL that's pretty SFW too, and ones that aren't as sexually explicit. I don't understand why people use this argument when shoujo manga (and teens love comics) all under the "something to be jerked off to rather than something to be taken seriously" as well. |
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lossthief
ANN Reviewer
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Good news! There are huge, heaping mountains of manga and light novels and novels doing exactly that, if you ever bothered to look for any of them. Y'know, instead of making sweeping, poorly informed statements about subgenres you, by your own admission, aren't terribly familiar with. On the actual topic, this seems like 8 different kinds of bad idea. There are a lot of things from the mid-2000s era con culture that died deserved deaths, and paddles were definitely one of them. Keep these in the grave next to glomping and colossus screams. |
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LadyKuzunoha
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Even speaking as someone who purchased one of the original Hen Da Ne paddles back in the 00s (and was far more responsible with it than many, regardless of the irresponsibility with my wallet that led to its purchase), I fully agree with others saying these belong in the past. The associated history is not the kind of thing we should romanticize as part of "the good old days" of convention-going or some such.
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