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fighterholic
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An unairable episode eh? Well if someone were to see it over here it would probably give more people incentive to attack the series so that it doesn't come over here. I'll go all out and say that I'm going to order this series and read it, and then give you all my opinion about it.
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SnowfairyX
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Can you recommend a good place where I can order the manga from? I can't read japanese but as a collector, I still want to own these volumes and possibly the DVD's for the TV series if I can afford them. Hopefully this bundle will cost less than $100. I apologize if I'm going off-topic. |
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ikillchicken
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File that under "things I didn't say". Sure report about controvercial stuff, but once its been beaten to death stop milking it for more. Also, youre talking about filler news, which this isnt. Sorry, I forgot that some people like beating dead horses. Youre right. I could just ignore this. To some extent I am by not going into the actual Nymphet issue. Still, its a little irritating to see these stories posted and though some people would be happy to dicuss this for years, I think the majority of people are sick of it.
I didn't say it wasn't newsworthy now did I? I simply asked if it was. If you and more Importantly ANN think it is then I don't blame you for thinking its worth reporting. |
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testorschoice
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Not so simply...finishing your question by saying "The whole Nymphet issue needs to die" sort of biases your question.  That's why people responded the way we did.
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ikillchicken
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Well, my oppinion was that It probly isnt newsworthy normally. I didn't say that specifically, but youre right I did imply that. You do raise some good points too, perhaps it is newsworthy. I still think that the Nymphet issue needs to be let go though in the case of topics that wouldnt really be worth reporting normally. |
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ZaWarudo
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TV adaptions of manga are often toned down. The TV adaption of Chokotto Sister(if that got licensed we'd have KnJ all over again) infamously put "police tape" over the nudity, which was removed for the DVDs.
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naruto fan 09812
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Great job Seven Seas of taking advantage of the free publicly of controvesy title Nymphet has. You are a living proof that there is no such thing as bad publicly.
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cyrax777
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bah its just marketing to boost the sales of that volume.
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Daemonblue
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Really, it could be any number of reasons that it can't be aired as their laws for TV are very different compared to their laws for manga, such as how in Cromartie Highschool and Strawberry Marshmellow they had to "fix" the teenager smoking problems, in the former by drawing it as a smoking piece of straw and the latter by making the girl a college student instead a highschooler. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't other reasons to not air this particular epsiode, but rather we don't know why it's unairable at this point in time. Now, I don't remember where I was going with this cause I have a very short attention span, but to sum it up, we don't know why it's unairable, and there's a large number of reasons that it might be unairable, but we don't know, and I, for one, won't judge something that I don't know.
That being said....now I want the DVD eps of Chocotto Sister....I knew the police tape thing was probably TV only, especially since they did it for Galaxy Ange~rune as well :X. Don't forget though, Japan's broadcasting laws are very different from our own, especially their laws concerning pornography (ALL domestic porn has to be censored, period), so for something to be unairable isn't exactly that uncommon, just something that isn't put on news sites very often. Just look into the past and you'll see several series that had unairable episode, many not as controversial as this one (the hotsprings ep of DearS anyone?). |
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mskala
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I figure that the real reason people are upset over KnJ is because it features a child as sexual instigator, and in North America, that's something you're not allowed to imagine.
It's not because the series is pornographic, because it isn't pornographic, and things that are are tolerated. It's not because the series is explicit, because it isn't explicit, and things that are are tolerated. It's not because of sick things happening off-screen, because they don't, and series in which they do, are tolerated. It's not because of implications of cousin incest, because other series with cousin and brother-sister incest are tolerated. So what's really different about KnJ? The fact that it's not the adult who's the pervert. In North America, it always has to be the adult who is the pervert and the child who is the victim and that's the way it always has to be and you're not allowed to suggest otherwise. Having an episode be un-airable on broadcast television doesn't really mean much; just like here, Japanese television standards are Byzantine in their complexity, and lots of material that's considered perfectly acceptable for home video, and non-pornographic, is nonetheless not allowed on television. As for cat photos, yes, won't somebody please think of the kittens? |
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CCSYueh
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Bambi had that huge tug-on-the-heartstrings most of us were sad about when we were 7. In fact my issues with Disney now are they produce their movies to formula-her a laugh, there a body humor joke for the little ones, tug-on-the-heartstrings, finish with enough menace to hae the little ones on their seats but not scar them for life.... My gosh, watching anime/reading manga one would think Japan is made up of orphans & single parents (And the roads are dangerous. Look how many significant characters to the life of the protagonist get taken out on the roads of Japan. Yusuke Urameshi was taken out on one of those roads. Did you cry? He saved a cute kid). How many stories do we see the high school kid on his own working 1-5 jobs plus go to school. I was reading one where it was just a count (Ah! Lovely Sick! I remember now!) the kid's parents get taken out in an auto accident which crushes his legs so he needs dozens of operations but, guess what? Mom & dad were divorcing & no one wanted the kid, so he's really better off an orphan. All he needs is a child molestor in the mix. Tada! It was really, really pushing the circumstances. "If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all" time. Bottom line is from what I've seen Nymphet itself isn't exactly an "A" title-more "B" or "C"(2nd feature or straight to home market). The author herself said it's lolli when she stated there are different standards around the world for lolli and just because some readers try to nit-pik it out doesn't change a duck from being a duck. Just because Taco Bell is more American than Mexican doesn't mean they're going to change the definition of their restaurant to Taco Bell Americanized Mexican food. It's like the argument in the yaoi fandom about what is or isn't yaoi-"oo, if there's no sex, I don't call it yaoi, it's BL." Show it to the average American (on the homophobic side) & boys kissing is gay & undesirable. "They might as well be having sex." "You know where it's leading". |
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Daemonblue
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That was one of the best views on this series that I have read, on either side of the arguement. I give you a large round of applause for posting this link and praise you for finding it. Now I wanna see someone try and come up with a counter-arguement for that well thought out post that person made. Edit: Also, I like how he also brought up the incident with the girl abusing herself, it's not something that you commonly here, but then really shows just to what lengths our society will go to stamp out child pornography. |
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mokitty
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That post you linked was very well thought-out and well supported; one of the most rational I've seen on the subject on either side of the debate, so I think it's worth me jumping in one last time. However, and I've said it in another thread, I think there is one critical piece missing from your logic, and that is that the girl in this title is 8. Whatever else one can say about instigators, her target's innocence, the "humorous" and "non-sexual" nature of the story (which I personally still don't buy, but that aside...), this is a child who is not yet old enough to even be physically mature. I would submit that a person who is not physically mature enough for the acts in question (implied, suggested, etc...) is not a "sexual being" as referred to in the linked post. Nor are they objects, of course, but whether the child is the "instigator" or not, whether this is her "choice" or not, in this case she is not physically capable of sexual acts (*shudder*) without significant harm to herself. This is why these laws exist, and why the child's "choice" or "instigation" is not taken into consideration in said laws. Children require adults to guide them as to what is appropriate behaviour and to protect them from harm -- whether that harm stems from an outside source imposing its will on them, or from their own actions, which they may or may not be capable of fully appreciating the consequences of. So, in my opinion, I don't think that the assertion that this is a problem of society viewing children as "objects" is relevant to this case. It has little to do with whether children are free-thinking, capable human beings, and everything to do with said children being too young to follow through on any thoughts they might have of a sexual nature without injury (whether they recognize this or not; and they most likely don't). You're not allowed to think of children in that way (as sexual instigators) because what follows under the banner of "respect" of their humanity, individuality, and choice, might very well damage them. |
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hikaru004
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For all those who like kitten photos, I let my cat view the pic. Yes, in all cruelty, I subjected my sleepy cat to the suggestive kitten pic and..... Nothing happened. 
More kitten pics please Zac. 
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HitokiriShadow
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That's a very interesting article, thank you for sharing that. |
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