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NEWS: Fate/stay night's 2nd Promo Video by ufotable Streamed

The duel scenes give me jawdrop.

Still have at least another year to save some $$$ until AoA's limited edition release. Definitely not gonna miss this one!

Btw, they still haven't told us which scenario they're going to take, have they?

ss4chris wrote:

sounds like hentai side of you talking. because minus the sex scenes theres no real difference between the 2.

No. The anime adaption was shit, no other reason than that.

I like how you can't even elaborate as to why you think it is shit...

I like how you can't even elaborate as to why you think it is shit...

I (like most people I think) first saw the DEEN anime. I thought it was a fairly average shounen flick. It had a great concept, a dull protagonist, long sequences of nothing happening, two good female characters and legendary heroes fighting. Only the concept kept me going for the first quarter of episodes, but the ending I thought was really good. The technical side wasn't very good, considering that the other high profile anime that year were Code Geass, Death Note, Kanon, followed a year later by Gurren Lagann, Macross Frontier, Gundam 00 and others.

I had half-forgotten that anime when I read the visual novel in 2010, really liked it despite Nasu's at times insufferable prose. I watched the anime again and my opinion of it was way more negative. So what was wrong with the anime? First of all it told slightly over 1/3 of the actual story. Fate was not meant to be stand-alone. It was meant to be seen as a part that isn't complete without the others. It is nominally self-contained, but simply lesser without the others. In retrospect Deen not trying to mix in more from other routes, if they did not intend to animate them at that time, was a big mistake. It simply gives you a lesser story.

Secondly, I was surprised how little and how uninspiringly psychological insight was provided in the anime. For example, the intensity of flashbacks wasn't even approached. We knew why people did things, but at least I wasn't convinced how important the past was for those characters, and that is crucial for both Shirou and Saber (the lack of insight in Saber makes a lot of people comment how much more successful F/Z portrays her convictions). Shirou's case was especially bad, because almost nothing of his characterization from UBW was included, which was necessary to make him a compelling character. Without you only have the single-minded side of him. Much of his inner monologues even from Fate was lost in the anime and I do not believe that it is all just because of the change of the medium. UBW movie on the other hand concentrated on the wrong things. It wasn't Shirou's future as you-know-who that was his problem, or that he fails to bring about his wishes, or his ideals themselves, it was the psychology behind his actions - the rather tragic contradiction that he fails to grasp until late UBW. And there's buildup to that in the novel through both routes - an (often) unreliable reflexions that the anime also fails to imitate. And I won't touch other characters like Kotomine or Ilya.

Thirdly, a number of plot developments are sped through without giving them proper context.

Fourthly, the way the action side is described in the novel makes the visuals in anime look even worse.

I do not think that the adaptation is terrible. That's a meme and as people already mentioned, a number of those who say that can't even really explain what's so terrible about it. I think it is uninspired, so it nonetheless sucks and if someone intends to read the novel at some point, there is no reason to watch it. Even putting aside the inevitable expectations from an adaptation, the visual novel is a much more immersive and emotionally satisfying experience.

I think this is the longest post I've had here, sorry for that.
Also I didn't stress this enough a while back, but WHAT THE HELL is wrong with Tohsaka's nose!!!