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omar235
Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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Why wait a year, if they did that the anime would pile up and all they have to do is stop when ever a show is licensed. It's because people still upload them even after licensing that causes problems.
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starcade
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The fact is that YouTube is probably going ot have to face serious liabilities from both sides of the Pacific before this goes anywhere.
I got into about a three-week flamewar on Usenet, basically saying that this is going to fundamentally change anime in America, increasing it's price significantly due to the efforts which will need to be made to sue people to get this stuff off of YouTube, BitTorrent, etc. etc. etc. I put the over/under on Google getting sued at about March 1, 2007. |
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starcade
Posts: 204 |
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This isn't going to stop until people get sued and put in jail over it. I've seen long-licensed animes on YouTube, and nothing appears to be done to stop it. |
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Successful_Troll
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You've kind of created a conundrum there. If you remove all the copyrighted content on Youtube, and make it harder for people to upload it, Youtube ceases to have a reason to exist. Another user puts it best:
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Riyousha
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Well the only time I'll watch a fansub is when I feel like watching an episode of a show in my interest that isn't in the U.S. yet. I would also watch a dub in my interest if I miss an episode of something.
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Zoe
Posts: 898 Location: Austin |
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You do realize that US companies have already started uploading their own content, right? I hardly doubt that YouTube will be destroyed. |
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Nobuyuki
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Submitted for example. Not to mention... |
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chaosbladeuk
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OK I work in PRS which is the UK equivalent of JASRAC. For anything with music made my Japanese artists/composers (virtually everything then), there is a huge license fee the publishers and writers need to play JASRAC before that can even happen. I remember an incident where one of our writers had a problem releasing songs she co wrote with Rie Fu, in Japan, because of how music is brought out in Japan. In a nutshell, the reason why you can't have a tv channel broadcasting anime, its because their membership of JASRAC doesn't allow it (this is partly the reason some productions have to have their music taken out and re-editted with their own music) This isn't regarding anime in general, this is Japanese content with music from their writers. |
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Successful_Troll
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First off, the top link is just trailers. Big deal. Secondly, the other link is on Google Video and it costs money. If you put copyrighted stuff on Youtube but charged people to watch it I think the other companies would have less of a problem. No one would use Youtube anymore, but... |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4472 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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I find YouTube to be, if not a completely guilt-free, certainly a guilt-reduced way to watch fansubs since I'm not really saving anything to the hard drive (yeah, I know it stays in the cache for a while, but I don't do anything to keep them). I know there's absolutely no legal justification for YouTube not to do everything possible to keep fansubs off its server, but I consider watching fansubs at that site to be about morally equivalent to watching fansubs at an anime club (as long as it's not the sort of anime club that distributes burned copies of things).
All I can say is that, of the series I've watched at YouTube and liked, I've already started buying the legitimate Region 1 DVDs of one (Strawberry Marshmallow), and will buy at least three others if/when they become available. |
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Ashen Phoenix
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I agree with this in a lotta respects. For one example, if it weren't for users on Youtube who uploaded the subbed version, I never would've seen the first episode of .hack//ROOTS since I missed it's ungodly-hour premiere in English. But it's not like I won't watch things legally, only that I have a lotta restrictions on what I can see normally (on TV and DVD rentals and such). If ll these anime were available to rent for a cheap price somewhere, or were being aired on TV (not just On-Demand) I'd most likely watch far less of it on Youtube. And yeah, no offense to the peopl who've done a decent job of it, but when I'm searching for a specific song on there -- I don't wanna run into a half-assed homemade video of somebody singing their favorite song (with someone who aparently was high when he/she/it decided to film their friend). |
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Zoe
Posts: 898 Location: Austin |
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I wasn't even thinking of anime companies when I wrote that comment. NBC has close to 200 videos up ranging from clips from shows to original videos (gotta love Bill the Promo Guy ). CBS has even more. You also have actors (Kal Penn, Chez Tam and spoiler[Brandon Routh]) and musicians (The Black Eyed Peas) using it as a forum for their works. Sometimes the best way to control things is to embrace it. Unfortunately I don't really see this happening for the Japanese companies because of the language barrier. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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Still, I rather they cleanup multiple files first. Then work on getting the other stuff squared away. I mean, some clips have 30 multiples on the site, when one will suffice.
Case in point: a skit from the Japanese TV Show People Art Grand Prix. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Matrix+Ping+Pong&search=Search |
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writerpatrick
Posts: 672 Location: Canada |
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YouTube simply has to enforce it's own policy:
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I think the only way this will end is when JASRAC goes after YouTube for not doing so. They could easily sue for ever incident in a class action suit in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. This would not only force YouTube to go after the violators but disuade other similar sites from allowing illegal material to be posted. |
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