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EP. REVIEW: Akebi's Sailor Uniform


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Leviathonlx1



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:30 pm Reply with quote
evan77 wrote:
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-"low quality of stories in the West" Yes as opposed to the high quality storytelling the anime industry brings out every season.
Even the poorest anime still has better stories than the West stories because, like the West, they do not include politics in the story

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-"Let creators to free" I agree with you there. You should also allow readers/watchers to be free to talk about the media they interact with, positively or negatively. Also why do you think people in Japan don't talk about things they do not like?
In Japan, people like in the West do not gossip about everything, they do not attack writers because of their sexual characters, they only support their favorite shows.


In Japan creators are attacked all the time on things like Twitter lol Anyway I'm sure this is starting to get to soapboxing territory.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:02 pm Reply with quote
I think the most damning, if brutally honest description of Akebi’s School Uniform (at least in terms of its voyeuristic leanings) was made by a friend on twitter, who described it as feeling like it was made by Humbert Humbert. There’s so much flowery eloquence & gentle, almost chaste innocence to how it attempts to apotheosize its cast, but you’d have to be naive, dishonest or just stunningly in denial to act like it isn’t just puffed up obfuscation, hiding a far more carnal core.

Among the various flimsy excuses I’ve read is the whataboutism comparing the show to ecchi or straight up hentai as defense of its more sexual leanings, with the idea that it’s redundant to complain when there’s actual explicit pornography about. Unfortunately, I personally find that comparison only makes the show feel ickier in hindsight. The thing about sexual imagery in anime is that it’s usually blunt to the point of being tacky. Breasts are often comically large and bounce with cartoonish sound effects, sex scenes focus on unsubtle close-ups and exaggerated moaning, etc. It’s pretty standard impulsive lizard-brain horniness, designed to satisfy an immediate impulse, and then be forgotten about. Anime, by in large, isn’t great at depicting eroticism.

Akebi’s School Uniform isn’t like that. It lingers on specifics, following lovingly rendered glances and body movements in obsessive detail. Bluntly put, the show luxuriates in the pubescent form. If ecchi feels like it’s catering to a disposal hormonal urge, Akebi feels like it comes from the mind of someone who stays up focusing on every possible specific to heighten the beauty & sensuality of the human body. If the subjects were adults I’d say the author might have a successful career ahead in romance literature, but unfortunately they’re not. They’re children, and it’s incredibly uncomfortable seeing this approach applied to them. It leaves a bad taste behind.

Ultimately it’s really disheartening, as like Mercedez and others have pointed out, there are real strengths to the show once you attempt to step away from the framing. I’ve seen people comment on how as a concept, there are positives in how it reflects on teenage insecurities, both in their bodies and the clothing they use to express themselves during early adolescence. Granted, I’ve never been a middle-school teenage girl, so I’m not really in a position to comment whether the general idea of its burgeoning, yet seemingly chaste portrayal of awakening sensuality would resonate with them, however, that's ultimately a moot point in this case. This is a property made by an adult for an adult magazine, subsequently adapted by adults & given a late night air slot for an adult audience. It isn’t going to change. It knows exactly what it is and who it’s marketed for, & that certainly isn’t the same demographic as its cast. They are the subject matter & we are the camera lens. It's hard not to feel gross & slightly insulted once that dawns on you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:50 pm Reply with quote
Personally this show is easily one of my favorites of the season. Though I will admit I have no clue what direction the show is actually going in bit I'm enjoying it so far. [Edit: removed snark. Post about the anime without dissing your fellow fans. Errinundra.]
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Florete



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:40 pm Reply with quote
Just caught up on the show, not really sure what to think of it so far. The faces often look weird to me.

evan77 wrote:
Even the poorest anime still has better stories than the West stories because, like the West, they do not include politics in the story

In Japan, people like in the West do not gossip about everything, they do not attack writers because of their sexual characters, they only support their favorite shows.

Pft. Can't help but laugh at this. Both of these are totally wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:08 pm Reply with quote
@ evan77,

You've made your point. Again. Please move on from the anti-Western rhetoric. Any further posts along that line will be removed for soapboxing.
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AmpersandsUnited



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:43 pm Reply with quote
Electric Wooloo wrote:
"If you don't like it, don't watch it" is one of the weakest excuses anyone can give for a product. Generally people criticize something because they want it to be better.


The main problem with that line of thinking is making the show better for them would make it worse for others. Imagine if people coitized The Night Beyond the Tricornered Window by saying it could be a really good supernatural dramedy if it wasn't for all the homoeroticism in it, despite the fact it runs in a yaoi magazine so that is the entire point

"Don't like, don't watch" seems like a perfectly reasonable stance to have. After all, not every show is made for everyone, nor should it be. I think the only real way criticism can make a show actually better is giving feedback that goes with the flow of the show, rather than against it. Something like suggesting what situations the viewers would like to see the characters in, or if they could have done a scene better if they explored one aspect more in depth. Stuff that makes a JC series more appealing to its fans, rather than people who aren't into that stuff to begin with.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:48 pm Reply with quote
Electric Wooloo wrote:
"If you don't like it, don't watch it" is one of the weakest excuses anyone can give for a product. Generally people criticize something because they want it to be better. They air their thoughts and hear others to get a range of opinions and views to better understand the art/story/whatever. "Only people who love it should watch it" or similar arguments this season I've seen of "The person reviewing this series should be someone who likes it" creates just as stale and boring art as your strawman "Western" art.

We don't criticize shows to make them better, the shows are already done at this point. If people don't like and don't watch, there won't be a sequel and it's the sanction. We criticize shows that we like/dislike because it's part of the global experience a show provide : from the hype before its broadcast to the effective broadcast and the discussions surrounding it.
So the criticism is used to explain people's opinions about it and to fuel talks with more interesting debates. That's why criticism like "this scene make me uncomfortable", are not that interesting because it's a personal feeling, not a criticism. You can share this feeling or not, but there is not much to talk about.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:40 am Reply with quote
Snowcat wrote:
We don't criticize shows to make them better, the shows are already done at this point. If people don't like and don't watch, there won't be a sequel and it's the sanction. We criticize shows that we like/dislike because it's part of the global experience a show provide : from the hype before its broadcast to the effective broadcast and the discussions surrounding it.
So the criticism is used to explain people's opinions about it and to fuel talks with more interesting debates. That's why criticism like "this scene make me uncomfortable", are not that interesting because it's a personal feeling, not a criticism. You can share this feeling or not, but there is not much to talk about.

I don't think anyone expects a show to change in real time - possibly the next season, but more the next show, or decisions as to what gets greenlit.

Your second paragraph seems to focus on literally one line in the ANN review, though it was used on the front page and in the twitter post. A lof of the surrounding paragraphs is about the "why" of how it makes the reviewer and many other viewers uncomfortable. Such as how it makes the characters of the show the sexual object of the viewer, as well as, or rather than, the subjects of the show, in the context of a world where girls are often robbed of the right to own their own sexuality.
Reviews are always subjective, writing "the show runs at 24 fps and uses a such-and-such color palette while featuring 14 characters" would certainly be more objective and free of feeling, though.

fathomlessblue wrote:
I think the most damning, if brutally honest description of Akebi’s School Uniform (at least in terms of its voyeuristic leanings) was made by a friend on twitter, who described it as feeling like it was made by Humbert Humbert. There’s so much flowery eloquence & gentle, almost chaste innocence to how it attempts to apotheosize its cast, but you’d have to be naive, dishonest or just stunningly in denial to act like it isn’t just puffed up obfuscation, hiding a far more carnal core.
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If the subjects were adults I’d say the author might have a successful career ahead in romance literature, but unfortunately they’re not. They’re children, and it’s incredibly uncomfortable seeing this approach applied to them. It leaves a bad taste behind.

Ultimately it’s really disheartening, as like Mercedez and others have pointed out, there are real strengths to the show once you attempt to step away from the framing. I’ve seen people comment on how as a concept, there are positives in how it reflects on teenage insecurities, both in their bodies and the clothing they use to express themselves during early adolescence. Granted, I’ve never been a middle-school teenage girl, so I’m not really in a position to comment whether the general idea of its burgeoning, yet seemingly chaste portrayal of awakening sensuality would resonate with them, however, that's ultimately a moot point in this case. This is a property made by an adult for an adult magazine, subsequently adapted by adults & given a late night air slot for an adult audience. It isn’t going to change. It knows exactly what it is and who it’s marketed for, & that certainly isn’t the same demographic as its cast. They are the subject matter & we are the camera lens. It's hard not to feel gross & slightly insulted once that dawns on you.

Thanks, this was really well put.
As you say, of course there must be room for art where very young people deal with and discover their bodies, with all the joys and horrors associated with it. But you can't do that if the focus is on the perspective of the viewer rather than the experience of the character.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:57 am Reply with quote
Having read the manga this anime is based on, the fanservice and ecchiness is far more blatant in the manga (with more traditional butt shots and other kinds of fanservice) so the ubiquitous horny vibe the series has is pretty upfront from the get go.

Honestly, I think the anime toning down the ecchiness isn't doing it any favors. Without the blatantly ecchi overtones the manga has, theoretically, Akebi's Sailor Uniform can be a pretty relaxing series about young girls maturing and growing as they attend middle school at an idyllic countryside. However, no amount of toning down can remove the ecchi that's hard baked into the core of this series and, with how the anime is directed, it doesn't look like the anime staff doesn't intend/want to do anything more than just remove some blatant ass shots. In the end, you're either stuck with an iyashikei/coming-of-age anime that's hampered down by some uncomfortable and voyeuristic ecchiness that feels out of place or an ecchi anime that's not ecchi enough and hampered down by the calm, relaxing vibes of a coming-of-age SOL anime.

Akebi's Sailor Uniform is a beautiful anime with some decent SOL, comfy coming-of-age writing. I feel whether someone can enjoy this anime or not is dependent on their own tolerance/limits/tastes to the ecchi that's a part of its identity. To some people it may not be that big of a deal, to others it's a deal breaker. Personally, I've read the manga so I know what I'm getting at so the ecchi elements of the anime isn't intolerable. The anime is comfy and low stakes enough where I can just turn my brain off and enjoy the beautiful art and animation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:53 am Reply with quote
Owning the first japanese volume of the manga and having read further chapters, the fanservice in the manga doesn't strike me as more explicit than in the anime. Sure, you occasionally get outlines of Akebi's panties through her wet clothes and such, but these drawings are few and far between the dozens of drawings focusing on how to tie a ponytail (and thus showing her neck), how to backflip (and showing her legs, hips, navel...), how to pull down your lips in an erotic way, and so on. Both the manga and the anime focus on erotic aesthetics as known from manga and from the art world in general, where ideals of beauty and the bodies of young women have been celebrated over centuries. As long as you keep that in mind, as well as the target audience of the original manga, and you don't cling to Laura Mulvey's highly controversial 70s film theory of the Male Gaze when analyzing anime in general, you'll be fine. If you don't, then the show is simply not for you, I guess.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:03 pm Reply with quote
The anime tracks the artstyle of the original manga quite closely. Saying that the mangaka, Hiro is/was a hentai artist before he (I presume) started drawing Akebi-chan no Serafuku.

The frankly salacious framing of a lot of the manga is averted in the anime, for the most part -- I have to smile when I see people going on and on and on about "foot fetish" when Hiro's focus in the manga is very much concentrated on another part of the anatomy of young girls.

What you don't get in the manga, and what I don't expect to see in the anime is the outright locker-room boob-groping and underwear shots that are a major part of some other well-respected shows, nor is there an obsession with boobs and boob size which permeates a lot of school-life manga and anime. Saying that, there's a chapter in the manga where this does become an issue, but not in the way most SoL manga deal with it. I'm interested in how the anime will treat this if and when it turns up.

Fourth episode -- the ending credits change from the sailor-fuku school vignette card ending of the first three episodes to Akebi-chan skipping rope, another art-flex by Hiro taken from the manga.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:16 pm Reply with quote
AmpersandsUnited wrote:
Electric Wooloo wrote:
"If you don't like it, don't watch it" is one of the weakest excuses anyone can give for a product. Generally people criticize something because they want it to be better.


The main problem with that line of thinking is making the show better for them would make it worse for others. Imagine if people coitized The Night Beyond the Tricornered Window by saying it could be a really good supernatural dramedy if it wasn't for all the homoeroticism in it, despite the fact it runs in a yaoi magazine so that is the entire point


But I think there's an important difference between "excessive" homoeroticism and "excessive" paedoeroticism; that kink, as the saying goes, is not OK.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm Reply with quote
Nojay wrote:
The anime tracks the artstyle of the original manga quite closely. Saying that the mangaka, Hiro is/was a hentai artist before he (I presume) started drawing Akebi-chan no Serafuku.

Was he* actually a hentai artist before? Because all I've found is an H-artist who bears the same pseudonym (same kanji), but that artist's art is soooo different (and pretty bad) that I can't believe it's from the same person, especially when you compare the art in Hiro's 4-koma manga Aquarium from 2009 and the one in the H-manga/doujinshi which were published around the same time. Maybe Hiro drew hentai manga under a different pseudonym, or I'm missing something here.

(* according to the artist's personal website, the artist is male).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:44 am Reply with quote
druv wrote:

I don't think anyone expects a show to change in real time - possibly the next season, but more the next show, or decisions as to what gets greenlit.

Your second paragraph seems to focus on literally one line in the ANN review, though it was used on the front page and in the twitter post. A lof of the surrounding paragraphs is about the "why" of how it makes the reviewer and many other viewers uncomfortable. Such as how it makes the characters of the show the sexual object of the viewer, as well as, or rather than, the subjects of the show, in the context of a world where girls are often robbed of the right to own their own sexuality.
Reviews are always subjective, writing "the show runs at 24 fps and uses a such-and-such color palette while featuring 14 characters" would certainly be more objective and free of feeling, though.

I wasn't talking about the ANN review but in a general sense. It is interesting to explain why the show make you feel that way, but there is nothing to argue. The "uncomfortable" aspect is not fundamentally a negative that should be "corrected", the worst shows are the boring ones that just feel like wasting your time. The subject reminded me of "Nazo no Kanojo X" where i saw some radicals and opposed opinions because of its use of body fluids, that's why i posted my message.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:12 pm Reply with quote
Episode four, I think, was pretty free of squick-factor, at least for me, though I'm at a loss as to why Akebi was doing calisthenics during the drama-club meeting.

Snowcat wrote:
I wasn't talking about the ANN review but in a general sense. It is interesting to explain why the show make you feel that way, but there is nothing to argue.


Well, there's "argue" and there's "discuss". The distinction is maybe a little subtle.
I think it's a good idea for the reviewers to talk about the squick-factor, since it can warn people away from the series or the episode, or at least prepare them for what is to come.
I suppose the same applies to forum discussion --- language being imprecise, the various forum participants try their best, and the reader forms an impression from the various attempts.

So far, I think the best description has been that of fathomlessblue's friend: it feels like the series was made by Humbert Humbert. It's beautiful, and shows real mastery of technique --- as the samples of the manga on the Kodansha ebook site show is true of the manga as well. I just kind-of wish that visual mastery was being applied to Akebi's first year at an all-women's college and not middle-school.
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