Forum - View topicINTEREST: 3 Teens Arrested for Shoplifting 1st 57 One Piece Volumes
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enurtsol
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Not just tags but lock-box. And things still get stolen; people come up with ingenius ways.
Shops in high-theft areas sometimes decide it's not worth it. There's an area in the NYC locale called Long Island City that, since the tenants closed shop, hasn't been replaced for awhile now because, once any interested tenant asks the businesses around, it's found out that it's a high-theft area. And these are big retail shops. |
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Lightning Leo
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Ack no, I'm not saying the volumes are missing because of theft (though I see how that might be inferred), where I live I can't even imagine theft like that occurring (most people would just manga cow it). I'm just commenting on the buying patterns that result because volumes are missing. Physical theft contributes similarly to these patterns of lost sales by denying a person the opportunity to even be exposed to a series in the first place (which, as you noted, also happens when volumes are simply not in stock). The results of lost customers for a series I imagine are the same and equally detrimental to overall sales, which is why I brought up my personal experience with missing volumes in the store. Another way to put it is, that when volumes of manga are stolen it's just as bad for a potential customer as when the volumes are simply not in stock. Which means that an author is losing fans that he otherwise could have made. |
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Richard J.
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I waited nearly 20 years to get all of Sunbow's GI Joe cartoon on DVD. (I'd have bought in VHS if that were still the media.) About the same for The Real Ghostbusters. Now, clearly I'm a very patient man but my point is that I didn't go out and help some pirate who didn't own the rights or have permission to distribute those shows make some bucks. Before anyone gives me the "they're doing it for free!" thing, I know some of these people really are putting their own money up to pay for bandwith and all of that but a damn lot of people are asking for donations or outright charging people. That, however, isn't the real issue. I get that you and others sometimes can't get the product you want but it doesn't excuse the fact that the people putting out scanlations, fansubs, rips, etc. just do not have the right to do it. I personally think it's unreasonable to support people like that. I'll admit, I've downloaded fansubs in the past. I haven't done that in years though. The reasons for that are mostly personal but one of them that applies here is the fact that I understand now that no one is going to license and dub a show I want to buy if no one is buying anything. I know you can't get the product you want and believe me I sympathize. (Again, waited twenty F-ing years for the product I wanted.) If you want to download Saiyuki Reload, I'm not going to call you names or pitch some over-the-top fire and brimstone sermon. I'm actually very sympathetic to people like you who do not have a legal recourse. Especially since the reason you don't is partially because of people who chose not to pay for the legal product and instead indulged in the illegal product. It's a vicious cycle that feeds on itself. Still, that doesn't excuse the mentality some people have that they can just break the law and do whatever they want with other people's property and just because it's digital doesn't mean it isn't property. Someone like you potassium isn't the kind of person I have a real issue with. It's the people who promote piracy and who illegally use other people's property that bug the devil out of me. Those people are feeding the loop and making it harder on the rest of us. I know the economy's made things worse but all of the bootlegging and illegal subbing and streaming and ripping isn't exactly helping. |
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ArsenicSteel
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All that and not a damn word about shoplifting, One Piece, or the store. Maybe these teens are in the yakuza division of fansubs/bootlegs/streaming/scanlations but the article was encoded in such a way only a few of the denizens of ANN could see the connection.
I was looking forward to enjoying jokes about pirates, piracy, and One Piece in this interest article but what I got was more pissing and moaning about super serial stuffs. |
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Sunday Silence
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What do you expect of folks that love to use strawman fallacies? ****, I'm still wondering how it exploded into Internet Piracy. Could've gotten killed in a few posts, but Nooooooooooo.......... |
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Lightning Leo
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Actually I think this has been a good conversation, some people have brought up good and interesting points, even I've upgraded some of my thoughts about the issues. I can definitely leave saying that I've gotten something out of this. Despite the brainlessness of most of it, the Internet can be a place for fruitful conversation beyond meme mindfapping, zippy one-liners and the usual "derpderpderpderpderp". 
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