Forum - View topicREVIEW: Highschool of the Dead episodes 1-6
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DmonHiro
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It's like me an Shiki. I don't like Shiki, I find it uninteresting and boring. But I KNOW that it's a quality show. The animation is good, the story is well told, the acting is OK. I know it's a quality show, but I just don't enjoy it.
So if I can admit that a show I don't like is actually a quality show, why can't others admit the same thing about HOTD? Does bashing on the fanservice make one feel better? |
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OtakuExile
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I thought these posters hate subtitles? huh. Hiro, you are arguing with noobs that have only seen animation through television in the last 10 years or so. They don't have any experience with anime they had to find themselves.
Nevermind. Episode 7 is the best so far. Brings me back to the old days. Can't wait for the uncensored version. |
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Big Hed
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Just going to break out the tried but true saying: if execution is good, a story doesn't have to be original to be enjoyable--that's why I find HOTD so appealing, at any rate. Like I said in an earlier post, I'm getting exactly what I expected from an anime about zombies, but there's a lot of energy behind the show's delivery, and the audio/visual packaging it's wrapped in rounds the whole experience out. Having said that, it's still not going to work for everyone, as Quark and DmonHiro said. And just generally, what's all this complaining about the fanservice for? I mean I've seen shows with tons more than HOTD that don't seem to get the same level of response, and a zombie show would seem to be an expected location for some shameless T&A. Big plusses in HOTD's case: it's quality, and/or often hilarious. |
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siberian24
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hello people, i just finished watching hotd ep 7 and i was thinking how refreshing this anime is and how much I've been enjoying it...
so i googled it as you do to see if people were thinking the same, so i found a line from zac bertschy on wiki...."It just could've easily been written by a script generator or a horror fan with 19 minutes to kill." a pretty damning statement...whats his problem maybe he's only watched the first episode or something because to me this is the most refreshing and real (zombies i know) anime I've seen in years also characters... they feel like real characters or at least as real as people would be in a zombie apocalypse... then i found another review from our zaccy about house of five leaves one of the mose stereotypical animes I've seen in years and he turns into fanboy gogo-xtreme... you should try and find the review its funny... |
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Myaow
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siberian24, at the time that Bertschy wrote that review, only the first episode had been released-- it was for the Summer Preview Guide, a feature on this site that reviews the first couple of episodes of brand-new series to give people an idea of what to watch. So of course he hadn't seen the rest of the series! The more complete review of the series is the one that this thread is in response to-- it covers episodes 1-6 and gives it a very good rating.
I wouldn't call the House of Five Leaves stereotypical at all, though-- but that might just be a matter of opinion. |
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kakitamike
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I'd give this series an A without too much of a problem. To me it's like the ultimate grindhouse flick minus the bad film reel.
A film can fall to genre cliche and still be fantastic. I didn't like Avatar (cameron) but many hundreds of thousands of people consider that an A+ film, and that film is a genre cliche start to finish. It doesn't make it a bad film. If the series continues the rising fanservice that seemed to multiply starting with episode 6, I can see how it might unfold into porn. spoiler[When the nurse leaves the apartment naked because she forgot she wasn't wearing any clothes, even I rolled my eyes] But these characters going at it would make more sense to me thematically than driving around the city in tanktops and thongs when a scratch from a zombie ends your life. That being said, I'm not enjoying this for its realism or plausibility. And apparently I have the benefit of not being exposed to the manga, so I can just enjoy it for the fun time it is. When I want meaningful A material, I'll go watch Last Exile or early Kenshin. But for R rated super polished violence and skin, I'll turn to this or Black Lagoon. |
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Megiddo
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And I absolutely agree with that. But having a self-proclaimed genius figure out that zombies react only to sound and who then spends the next 5 minutes yelling her head off is not "good" execution. It's flaky and like a typical B-movie. But if people want a B-movie I can kind of see how it could be "good" execution. So is this a case where people want it to be bad (like again, a B-movie), so it being bad plays right into that? |
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Key
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A character who always behaves the same regardless of external threat or stimulus is either poorly-written, an automaton, or (heh) a zombie. Up until the scene you're referring to, the girl in question had been keeping it together well because she was pretty well on top of the situation, but as the situation devolved out of her control she started to lose it and behave irrationally. That is perfectly normal behavior for people and perfectly reasonable execution within the context of the material. And I agree with others that episode 7 was a great episode, but let's keep that commentary to the series thread in the Anime forum. |
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Big Hed
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Yeah, more or less. As kakitamike said, it plays like a super-polished grindhouse film; though for the record I find the characters pretty easy to like (with the exception of the nurse, though even she's tolerable because I was expecting her to be a thousand times more annoying from various previews). Regarding Takagi's sudden meltdown, I actually thought that made a lot of sense for the type of person she is ("self-proclaimed genius" sounds like a good description to me), and has proven consistent with other behavior she goes on to exhibit. She's the calm and collected type when there's some distance--literally and/or metaphorically--between her and a "problem" (aside from her experiments, see how she lectures Takashi about his relationship issues, Hisashi through most of the second episode), but when things get up close, she can't deal with them (again, "Mommy! Mommy!" aside, most every subsequent little bit of affection that goes either Takagi or Hisashi's way ticks her off). And in general, I think a lot of people would, having managed to keep their head on straight for the first half-hour of the zombie apocalypse, spoiler[quite possibly go to pieces if the situation within the space of a few seconds went from "not too bad" to "I'm screwed", like it did for her. And hey, she managed to find that power drill in the end.  ]
... Aaaand Key basically said what I wanted to in fewer words. And damn, I want to see episode 7!
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DmonHiro
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Dude, watched it 7 times, still awesome. The sheer badassery (not a ward, but it should be) is enough for a whole season. Hirano is a REAL OTAKU HERO. Takashi is just a REAL HERO.... and Saeko is the most awesome female I've seen in years. GO WATCH EPISODE 7 NOW! All of you, GO NOW!!! |
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Caiobrz
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I was merelly pointing out how a woman (usually the ones most offended with blatant ecchi - and my wife is extremely jealous of my anime likes =p) was able to get past something she didn't like in favour or realizing there are lots more aspects favourable than the ecchi. I don't see how using an logic artifice known as "counter-example", which is perfectly valid, is being prejudiced or arrogant. Actually, that's the nature of counter-examples: one single fact can drop a whole theory - I can see how you fell that's arrogant though. Moving on, as for the "Pornographic Aspect" as mentioned by Key, I agree that some bouncing big boobs and sexual undertones won't make this even near porn. In fact, I find suggestion much more appealing and sexy then explicit nudity. IMHO HOTD minus the zombies would actually make it just another generic romantic comedy/harem (which usually have more ecchi btw, just not ubber sized breasts) On "Quality of Execution", and also going back to my mentions on cliché and quality and how people must stop thinking "originality" is everything for quality, let's not forget that what is really important is the journey, not the end. You are all going to die you know, the journey is what is fun about life. Titanic sank, still that movie was one of the top grossing movies ever, and I bet it was not because of the end or how cliché (want something more cliché than knowing beforehand how it's going to end?), but rather how well executed and fun/entertainment journey it was to watch it (thus the name "entertainment" when commenting on anime, movies,etc) Just like Big Hed said:
The opposite is also true, some "original" stories are quite boring and far from entertaining. However, people seems to be just too picky, again let's try to open our minds, take a step back and see how reactions would go, for instance:
Key already covered that with a very good response, but I want to add my own here. She is smart, she figured that out - but she's a highschooler with near no experience in life, in a lot of stress on conditions and situations are changing around her. You really want her to be a ROBOT that is smart all the way? like "oh wait I am cornered and this zombie will kill me, but I'm a genious who don't panic, I won't yell or anything because I know it's pointless, so I will just smartly wait for my death - as a genius." ... sorry, that would be disappointing. The actual proof that the execution value is high comes EXACTLY at this moment: that's when she realizes her brains are not that worth in this caos, she notices blood, she realizes panic. She then drop and cry like a baby. I call that character development, the character just LEARNED something, grew up, and I expect her to trust less her "brains" and more the teamwork (which she DOES later on). I hate titles where the characters go thru hell and beyond only to end up the series being the same retards they started. Real humans adapt, and that's what you expect on a story line, specially when people are under pressure. On OtakuExile
I have to laugh at that, I bet most moderators, admins and experienced users here watch it subbed, and I am also pretty sure they watched some in the time they had (or still have) to find anime for themselves. I have absolutely no qualm to say I'm downloading fansubs. I don't like the stream versions around, the "official" subs are really bad, so I rather wait, watch the fansubs, then BUY the CD/BluRay (before you call me hypocrite, I could upload my DVD stand collection picture if you doubt I really buy them - ALL watched fansubed BEFORE buying). And yes, I date back from the time when anime was BearShare, Gnutella and IRC. That in mind, how's that relevant to people liking or not this anime or voiding their arguments? Now, here's a question for you all: Would all this be even being discussed if the title were made ecchiless? |
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Divineking
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Likely not. Half the complainers would probably say it's interesting.
Personally I agree with the A rating. At the end of the day the series is pretty damn entertaining and what most otakus have convinced themselves at the end of the day an anime or manga is successful if it's entertaning. Does that mean I think HOTD is flawless, heck no. I've read and watched it so all the flaws are pretty apparent...but you can get past them because the series is just plain fun. |
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Caiobrz
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lol I know this is a 1-6 thread but I have to say this ...
Episode 8 blew it up over the top with the big boobs, now not even me can say a word in favor of this lol... faster-than-bullets boobs! can't stop laughing. There is too much, and then there is really really too much 
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Kurohei
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I was very disappointed in this show. If you like zombies, gore, and fanservice you might like this show. But when I watch an anime I want to know what I'm watching. There was no plot at all. Unless of course you count "Killing zombies" as a plot. There better be a season two to make up for this.
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