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Animelover12313
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Seriously though, so you all are arguing that the judge seeing the characters look like small children and acted on that as a child pornography is wrong. Look, when you first watch any Anime related stuffs and you see a small little girls like that, how old did you think they were? Then were then surprised when they are actually hundred or thousand years old? It's no surprised to me at all even if the "age" of the character is older than 18 in the hentai but with the look of a young girl who is in her teen would made the judge to think that way. Also, every country has its own set of rules and as citizens you should bide by them unless found it unjust. I don't see how the guy is right for watching [expletive] porn on a job at a government facility at that. Most of you are saying that child pornography should be legalized? Seriously? I mean if it's strictly hentai then I would somewhat approve it since it was proven that when something is forbid, people will kept on doing it. As what was happened in the 1920s in America when drugs were banned. But I will strongly against child pornography if it was a real girl because that is just [expletive] disgusting. Sure there should be freedom but there will also needed to have a line drew somewhere so that things won't get out of control.
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Spotlesseden
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yes, it's wrong because it's not real. There are alot of studies to prove that watching "fictive images of sexual assaults on children alone can lead people to conduct sexual assaults on children" In fact, it's the opposite, it reduces sexual assaults on children. Look nobody is getting hurt. When the law is flaw, it needs to change. If he is watching it during working hour, then fire him. |
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shamisen the great
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shiranehito
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Animelover12313, Are we even in the same page? No one here wants child porn to be legalized, and what we're unhappy about is that the judge sentenced him as sex offender just by merely watching fictive porn which doesn't involve real child. In that sense, (throwing aside the fact that it contains pedophilia content or he's watching it in work hour) anyone who watches porn can be labeled as sex offender, and anyone who plays GTA can be labeled as criminal, and anyone who plays Trauma Center and watches House can be a doctor.
He should get punished for watching porn in his job hour, but he's not sex offender. |
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configspace
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Oh jeez.. in addition to the above,
The judge didn't say that, nor did the guy "acted" on anything whatsoever. The prosecutor said that "the characters looked like minors", NOT small children. The quote is in the source article. And the guy simply had a lot (hundreds) of hentai videos, which as mentioned before, if you are familiar with hentai. the majority do not contain "small children" at all. According to the law and what the prosecutor stated, simply showing genitals of any characters depicting a person under 18 is enough. I've also seen this enforced at a Canadian anime/manga erotic fan art site which does not state prohibiting "loli" but specifically that all characters depicted must be 18+. Basically, think of ALL of the ecchi anime that's made it's way into Canada, like the main 16 year old female character in Asobi no Ikuyo (Cat Planet Cuties). She's topless and that's fine... until you show her pubes. Or think of the Ikkitousen. Here, they don't even need to know or state their actual ages, since the setting is explicitly in High School and the female characters are in High School uniforms, hence the "depiction of minors". If someone's a fan of Ikkitousen, buys the anime legally in Canada... then he sees some nude art with the girl's pubes exposed on pixiv or deviantart or any fan site of the Ikkitousen girls, then he too would be considered a sex offender. Anyways, I'm just pointing one very common example that people don't think of, but ultimately it should matter what they look like or their fictional ages. |
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revolutionotaku
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Here's a list of comics & hentai manga that are seized by Canadian Border Officials.
http://cbldf.org/resources/customs/comics-seized-by-canadian-border-officials/ Here's a list of hentai anime that are banned from being imported into Canada. animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-02-26/canada-bans-imports-of-cool-devices-words-worth |
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sunflower
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You're being disingenuous. I'm relieved that our laws are a little more sensible about defining thoughts and looking at lines on a page as a crime. They're still pretty crappy, but they're far better than the black and white thought crimes of Canada. Also, since apparently no one has explained this about the US laws: 1. You cannot be charged for possessing obscene materials. 2. In the US, you cannot be charged for having CP if you have only illustrated materials. 3. What you can be charged with, and what in Handley's case they were left with charging him with, is that you cannot transport obscene materials across state lines. His case ended up having nothing to do with CP, but rather with purchasing possibly obscene materials from overseas. The magazines couldn't even be called obscene without a jury deciding they were. He decided not to take that chance and went to prison. |
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enurtsol
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Though skyrocketing the chikan rates! 
And proud of it! 
They have good taste! |
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Rensie
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Is hard to be an anime fan in countries like Canada, New Zeland, Aus and Us, thanks god i live in europe where i can watch any gender of anime, whatever i want, and not in these crappy puritans regions.
On the other he is an idiot to download anime at work, this guy pratically ask to get caught. |
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TarsTarkas
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He was even more of an idiot for using a official government network and government (computer) property, all of which officially warns you not to use it for those purposes, and tells you the penalties you will face if you do.
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Touma
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No. People are saying that anime and manga are not child pornography because there are no children involved in the creation of them. People are saying that anime and manga should be legal because they are not child pornography. People are not saying that child pornography should be legal. |
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Blood-
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Everyone keeps harping on the fact that when it comes to illustrated kiddy porn, no real children are being harmed. Which is, of course, true.
However, to understand why Canada has made possession of illustrated kiddy porn illegal, you first have to understand the legal rationale for why possession/viewing of live action kiddy porn is illegal. From what I can understand there are basically two: 1) by obtaining/viewing live action kiddy porn you are helping to create a market for those images. The theory is that satisfying that market may mean that additional kids get abused as producers look to provide new material for that market. I'm not asking whether you agree or disagree with this view, I'm saying I believe this is one of the rationale's for making possession of kiddy porn illegal. 2) I believe there is a theory that live action kiddy porn is a "gateway" activity that might lead some thought pedophiles into becoming action pedophiles. Again, I'm not asking you whether you accept this theory or not, I'm simply saying I believe that is part of the thinking behind making live action kiddy porn illegal. So, from a legal POV, if the law believes that accessing live action kiddy porn may stimulate a thought pedo into becoming an action pedo, then it actually makes legal sense to also outlaw illustrated kiddy porn since it too may have a stimulative effect. |
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Tuxy
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There is no agreeing or disagreeing with this, it's just plain wrong. As quoted by me and someone else in this thread earlier, it's been proven that the opposite is true. Pedophiles having access to material like this are less likely to committ child abuse because they have another way of fulfilling their sexual desires. They know exactly that child abuse is not okay at all, but they can't change their sexuality. Most pedophiles go through extremely hard internal struggles. And the stigmatization of this topic in society isn't exactly helping. |
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Blood-
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Please link me to studies that have "proven" that pedophiles who have access to kiddy porn are less likely to commit sexual abuse of children.
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revolutionotaku
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I have over 100 hentai anime DVDs sitting on my shelf right now.
Every single one of them are all legally purchased from stores & anime conventions. God Bless America! |
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