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INTEREST: My Hero Academia Character Gets Name Change Following Controversy

DavetheUsher wrote:

cookiemanstah wrote: making levity of Unit 731 is unironically as low as you go as a human being. I lost all respect for the author, personally. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt he wasn't purposely trying to be be crass, only that he probably read the room very wrong. A lot of American comic characters borrow names, powers, and origins from wars and tragedies all the time. He could have been trying to emulate that like he does for other things in American comics. The main difference is Japan and China have always had a tenuous relationship at best over topics like this so it was obviously going to be a lot worse than how DC and Marvel both have super villains named Holocaust.

Well said, and I agree completely.

in a different topic captain_bunny posted:

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Part of me thinks that Horikoshi did know what he was doing. Not out of ignorance but trying to have the reader understand how awful this villain is

If this was a deliberate reference than that seems like the most likely explanation by far.

But he doesn’t own up to that in his apology? He said it was only coincidental and it was not a deliberate reference. How can someone be given the benefit of the doubt if they are lying to you?

DavetheUsher wrote:

cookiemanstah wrote: making levity of Unit 731 is unironically as low as you go as a human being. I lost all respect for the author, personally. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt he wasn't purposely trying to be be crass, only that he probably read the room very wrong. A lot of American comic characters borrow names, powers, and origins from wars and tragedies all the time. He could have been trying to emulate that like he does for other things in American comics. The main difference is Japan and China have always had a tenuous relationship at best over topics like this so it was obviously going to be a lot worse than how DC and Marvel both have super villains named Holocaust.

like dude, they have a good reason to have tenuous relationships.

like the problem I have with a lot of anime fans is they feel like Koreans especially are overly vindictive about this. Like they seem to blow things out of proportion in regards to this or the comfort women issue. I even used to be one of those people that thought "damn kind of whiny over the past."

BUT, once/if you go down the rabbit hole about Unit 731 properly, you might come out with shades of Shinobu Sensui imprinted on your personality.

not really dude, reading extensively about Unit 731 and the Holocaust years ago made me a rather misanthropic and unfeeling individual. In the sense, I don't believe in any genuine goodness from humanity anymore given the depths of evil I have witnessed. I don't really blow anything out of proportion but can wholly understand why people seem to take those topics as seriously as they do. As in, even a JOKE or pun about it is not funny.

That's why we love Zankyou no Terror, no?

cookiemanstah wrote:

not really dude, reading extensively about Unit 731 and the Holocaust years ago made me a rather misanthropic and unfeeling individual. In the sense, I don't believe in any genuine goodness from humanity anymore given the depths of evil I have witnessed. I don't really blow anything out of proportion but can wholly understand why people seem to take those topics as seriously as they do. As in, even a JOKE or pun about it is not funny. That's why we love Zankyou no Terror, no?

"In the sense, I don't believe in any genuine goodness from humanity anymore given the depths of evil I have witnessed."

Yes, yes the world is filled with genuinely evil people & happenings. No reason to go all hopelessly nihilistic regardless, its not a good mindset.

Scion Drake wrote:

cookiemanstah wrote: not really dude, reading extensively about Unit 731 and the Holocaust years ago made me a rather misanthropic and unfeeling individual. In the sense, I don't believe in any genuine goodness from humanity anymore given the depths of evil I have witnessed. I don't really blow anything out of proportion but can wholly understand why people seem to take those topics as seriously as they do. As in, even a JOKE or pun about it is not funny. That's why we love Zankyou no Terror, no? "In the sense, I don't believe in any genuine goodness from humanity anymore given the depths of evil I have witnessed." Yes, yes the world is filled with genuinely evil people & happenings. No reason to go all hopelessly nihilistic regardless, its not a good mindset.

Different people and experiences? I've also personally never really known any love or compassion in my entire life either. I know intellectually it's not a good mindset, but if you have met one of those people that perpetually seem sad beyond comprehension and love to be pitied and fester in negativity, I was one of them. These days I am more outwardly restrained but I am almost never happy.

It's pretty OT and not something to be necessarily explored here, but when people ask if there is good in people in the face of sin, I always ask them what it is.

That's why I love anime. It's a reflection of my old ideals and innocence in the face of cold reality. And one of the few things that *ever* makes me smile.

Children throwing a tantrum, but it actually influences creators. Scary.
And people say that 'this isn't censorship'? Go on fooling yourself if that makes you feel any better.

Sherris wrote:

Children throwing a tantrum, but it actually influences creators. Scary. And people say that 'this isn't censorship'? Go on fooling yourself if that makes you feel any better.

I don’t agree with the people who outright harassed Horikoshi about this, but I don’t think everyone who was upset about it was just being childish. There were likely many who were affected, either personally, through family, even through society, from the chemical testing, and in this instance the name itself just doesn’t seem worth it, especially if he was never even intended to invoke those memories or be connected to unit 731.

Not every instance of censorship has to be treated as bad.

Maybe, but having your feelings hurt is definitely not a justifiable reason for censorship.

Maybe it's a coincidence but they'll NEVER apologies properly because doing so would require admitting that they committed crimes.
Nothing that may hurt "their glorious honor".