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NEWS: BBFC Demands Cuts To Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid


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Hellsoldier



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:14 pm Reply with quote
While it's not even nearly as absurd as censorship in China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Malasya, etc... I will still call British media laws absurd. John Stuart Mill was born there, and he had this funny little thing called The Principle of Harm, or Harm Principle:

"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."

"Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law."

John Stuart Mill is a reference if you are a Liberal, be it Classical Liberal (Right-Wing) or Progressive (Left-Wing). Since no actual minors are depicted, there's no proper reason to even cut anything. Just put an appropriate rating and the due warnings.
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residentgrigo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:46 pm Reply with quote
The whole show got a 16+ here in Germany after looking at amazon, as the girls apparently look "old enough". I guess. Kinda weird that they got away with such low rating due to the show glorifying sexual abuse of minors. Which seems to be the reason the BBFC raised complains, if i correctly read between the lines. They absolutely have a point but an 18+ rating still seems reasonable enough.

Our rating broads see it like this. Sexy teens = fine. Sexy teens that look like kids or sexy kids = legal trouble. Case in point the game spin-offs Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhuni.
That one landed on the Index (you can still buy or sell these but you can´t advertise or publicly display such products) after being refused an 18+. The game skated too close to child pr0n and was deemed too objectifying/misogynistic to women. Gal Gun 2 and Criminal Girls 2 also befall the same fate recently. Senran Kagura lastly moved up from 12/16+ to 18+ games. Why?

A high ranking politician collected photos of young girls posing in a sexual manner while still wearing some clothes and was busted in 2013. German child protection laws had to changed thereafter. Which i fully support. Meaning that any country is only 1 dirty politician away from a crackdown.
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Escaflowne2001



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:33 pm Reply with quote
I'm assuming it's MVM releasing this since they've just done Monster Musume and Testament of the New Devil completely uncut.
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Chrono1000





PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:08 am Reply with quote
IanC wrote:
Chrono1000 wrote:
I see that the BBFC is taking censorship to the next level and I do wonder how far it will go.

Hahaha. Talk about over reaction. Try telling someone in China or North Korea that censoring some titty anime is taking censorship to the next level.
Well no one expects free speech from a communist country while expectations are usually higher for democracies. Considering past incidents, such as Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, this isn't a huge surprise but the BBFC applying a vague policy on sexualization for fictional characters under the age of 18 would apply to a large percentage of anime. I get that some people don't like ecchi anime but it is sad to see people celebrate the censorship of anime just because they don't like it.

IanC wrote:
Im not surprised by this. Why are they even bothering to try and release it in the UK? It's practically pornographic. It's as dumb a decision as releasing the latter seasons of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya, which are also practically pornographic but are obvious loli unlike this drek.
I understand that Prisma Illya is a well known loli show since it is part of the Fate franchise but there are much more risque examples of the loli genre. Also Prisma Illya has a good story to it especially in the third season.
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Ryo Hazuki



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:20 pm Reply with quote
Weirdly hypocritical, since a British live-action movie, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is still uncut, and it has sexualized nudity, showing an underage character (played by an adult, but still) and sex between an underaged student and a teacher.
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CatSword



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:42 pm Reply with quote
How on earth does stuff like DxD and The Testament of Sister New Devil pass uncut (DxD with a 15 rating even)? It seems like the BBFC decides to cut something at random once in a while just to show they've still got power.
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