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frentymon
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 Posts: 2362 Location: San Francisco |
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Guess I made it in time for the last round.
I'll have to go with Misuzu. Somehow, she just *seems* more moe to me. I don't have any really great reasons, but I can try to come up with some, I guess. *spoiler[Nana kinda snapped and went into angry diclonius mode this one time in one particular scene. This other personality isn't really her and is just part of her diclonius blood, and she had a pretty good reason to go nuts, plus she snapped out of it relatively quickly, but she still went berserk for a while.] *In my mind, Nana is...well...a stronger person than Misuzu. She is relient on her "papa," but apart from that lies a side of her that can function independently as well. Misuzu, in a way, has an independent side, but becomes completely dependent to Yukito. I think Nana's sense of independence is relatively more subtle, as well as Misuzu's sense of dependence. *Er...Misuzu has a more moe look than Nana. The face and the eyes and the chibi-ish character designs. Or at least I think so. *"Nyahaha." Enough said. |
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Gauss
 Posts: 519 Location: Finland |
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Early in the tournament Nana was pretty much my favourite but somewhere along the way her hold over me started slipping. The tipping point was around the time when I voted Yuzuyu instead of Nana. At that point I knew Misuzu would get my vote in the finals no matter who came up against her. However, even if I had slightly favoured Nana in the finals I think H4M's propaganda overkill would have been enough to make me switch to Misuzu anyway.
I think most of us realized that cuteness or popularity alone was not going to cut it in the end. So voters went looking for other qualities that would distinguish one bunch of cute characters from other cute characters. The difficulty is that moe is difficult to pin down, especially for many of us who haven't really thought about its meaning before. It did become clear that one common trait for moe girls is their ability to elicit a loving response from the viewers. In this competition we westerners quickly latched onto the "protective parental feelings"-aspect of those loving feelings, possibly because it was easier to comprehend and seemed less shallow/icky than the alternatives. This naturally favoured tragic characters. In the Japanese Saimoe tournament Nanoha (from Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha) was the 2005 winner, and the previous winner was Osaka (from Azumanga Daioh). As far as I can tell none of the semifinalists in 2005 were tragic characters. That clearly tells me the Japanese favour some other quality than we do in this competition. I think I would call it fondness, i.e. how good a character is at making viewers feel fond about said character. From that point of view I would rate Nanoha higher than Fate (from the same show), but if I look at who is more deserving of a hug then tragic Fate would win hands down. Just as an aside, my hot tip for the series to watch out for in the 2006 Saimoe tournament would be The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi. Seems both Haruhi and Mikuru should go down a storm if I've gauged the Japanese mood correctly. Place your bets gentlemen! |
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dormcat
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Souseiseki and (although to a lesser degree) Shinku were both tragic characters.
Nagato/長門大萌神 (quiet glassed girl moe) will probably beat the combination of Haruhi (tsundere moe) and Mikuru (ultra-cute, ultra-shy and b00b moe). And don't forget Kyon's sister (loli brat). |
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DJ Crunchberry
 Posts: 16 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas |
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I vote for Nana, for all the reasons that have been stated.
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-gecko-
 Posts: 285 Location: Near Seattle, WA |
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I am glad that I could be a part of this although I entered late in the game. As others have said, thanks to the originators of this tournament; it's been a pleasure.
Although I have not seen Air I have to say that I have learned a great deal about Misuzu from posters here. From my standpoint, accepting my feelings of moe-ness about a character has to include a degree of promise for a better future, so Misuzu would have to have spoiler[ had a chance to live], otherwise why waste my feelings? Since that promise exists for Nana, she gets my vote. My vote also includes reasons already posted during earlier rounds. I do regret not having the time to view Air during the tournament. |
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abunai
Old Regular
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"Nagato, the great moe goddess"? 
- abunai |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Yes, and a portable one: 
(dormcat putting Nagato into seed list) |
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Gauss
Posts: 519 Location: Finland |
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Based on the anime I wouldn't call either tragic. Granted, I haven't read the manga (which I've heard is darker) and only seen three episodes of Träumend (though it hadn't aired during the 2005 competition I think) so perhaps they do turn into suffering characters. Based purely on the first season anime I could only call Suigintou tragic. Unfortunate she's the villain and a tad unhinged so not very good moe material.
Stop joking, that would be like voting for Rei Ayanami... oh wait... |
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abunai
Old Regular
Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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No, there's a clear difference. Whereas Ayanami Rei has no personality to speak of, Nagato Yuki (though equally artificial) certainly has one. Her personality makes itself known in subtle ways -- but then, she's an immensely complex device. And unlike Rei, Yuki definitely has a sense of humour. - abunai |
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hentai4me
 Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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indeed she does, its just less...obvious, her delivery makes it seem to fall flat, but I thought it was quite funny. |
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Space_cowboy64
 Posts: 337 Location: Great Britain...not all that great |
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Sorry i dont watch either of the shows so i cant vote on this one.
sorry space |
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Gauss
Posts: 519 Location: Finland |
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I know she's got personality, she's even feeling some spoiler[[diversion mode on]Ya know, SHnY is one heckuva harem anime, ain't it? Discuss.] *Exeunt left* |
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Fui
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I call meme on dormcat's porta-moe.
To be honest, Nana wins by default. Here's to the first limbless moe finalist. Btw, anyone seen Nana's Everyday Life? Poor Nana. （´；ω；`） |
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HitokiriShadow
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Nana's Everyday Life started out funny (in a sick way) but after a while, it was just downright depressing.
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Nagisa
Moderator
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Hence the reason I stick mostly to Tomoyo42's Room.
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