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REVIEW: Gundam 00 DVD Season 1 Part 1

Wellness, you missed a crucial "not". Just saying.

belvadeer wrote:

penguintruth wrote: You seem to have very low standards. I do not have low standards. The English acting sounds fine to me is all I'm saying. You seem to be judging this dub based on what you heard in Death Note. That's kind of like expecting an Emmy every time the same cast dubs something, even if DN didn't exactly get one. I think you're praising the Japanese version too much.

Dude, the Gundam 00 dub is sub-par. Not just compared to the Death Note dub (which was mediocre*), but sub-par fullstop. Just like 10% of the entire second season (the other 90% being plain crap).



*
Mediocre at best that is.

I think I've figured you out. You just hate everything don't you?

Ah, everyone's favourite Mecha troll has left Anime Suki and come for a holiday over here.

Kaioshin_Sama wrote:

I think I've figured you out. You just hate everything don't you?

Nope; wrong. I love milk chocolate, cute baby animals and long walks on the beach (seriously). I love the J58, the Saturn V and the Voyager 2 spacecraft. I love several dozen Anime titles, and would list them all if it wasn't against the rules. Heads up though, never insult Kino's Journey, Escaflowne or (especially) RahXephon around me. It's just that what I do hate usually happens to be precisely what you like, and vice versa.

We may be polar opposites, but can't we just get along?

I don't really mind it too much, either way, since I've heard both better and worse dubs than this one. I just prefer to listen to the Japanese track and that's essentially the end of the issue for me.

Regarding the actual show...I agree that Gundam 00 takes a while to get started and even for the main characters to really matter, but eventually several of them do develop in interesting ways and the second season, for the most part, felt more focused in this regard. Ironically enough though, the larger plot ends up being less cerebral and a little more predictable than it initially tried to be, at least in the long run. That's all for a later review, in any event, since the first season does have a few surprises in store.

@Charred Knight:
I'd say creating moral ambiguity was actually the point. Some people glorify him too much, but others do think he was a villain or simply believe he's somewhere in between. Is that wrong? Not really. The fact that Taniguchi was aware of how Lelouch's actions could be considered "evil" doesn't mean that was the point of the show, since a lot of time was also spent on making him sympathetic. The same scenes can and do lead to different viewer reactions.

In any case, there's no shortage of people who overly praise Death Note's Light Yagami, but that is another can of worms. The thing is, everyone's opinions on the matter aren't supposed to be monolithic.

I've also been watching on Sci-Fi/SyFy, and my only big complaint has nothing to do with the show itself(SyFy's 3 commercial breaks per 30 minute period is annoying). I will admit to not quite liking Setsuna at first, he's a bit too obsessed with Gundam(he seems to venerate Gundam as a personal god), but I've seen far more unlikeable characters before.

For me, the fact that Lelouch is protrayed as 100% correct during the actions of the last few episodes is what gets to me. The idea that a ludicrous plan that involves thousands if not millions of deaths is great is what pisses me off.

if one was to watch one's first Gundam series, what ought it to be? I'm not much of a mecha fan (thought I love RahXephon beyond measure), but I really believe in giving things a try, so I wouldn't mind some advice.

My personal suggestion is watching the Mobile Suit Gundam movie trilogy. If that's too old for you, Gundam 0080 or 08th MS Team both take place in the same universe (loosely), so that might ignite an interest and get you to look at the movies again.

Gundam Seed didn't really take off until episode twenty four, and Yoshiyuki Tomino's beloved original never really took off at all

Gundam Seed didn't really take off until episode twenty four, and Yoshiyuki Tomino's beloved original never really took off at all

Charred Knight wrote:

For me, the fact that Lelouch is protrayed as 100% correct during the actions of the last few episodes is what gets to me. The idea that a ludicrous plan that involves thousands if not millions of deaths is great is what pisses me off.

Are you talking first series or R2? If it's R2 TELL ME NOTHING, because I haven't seen it yet; if it's the first... were we watching the same series?

Anyway, I'm actually here to ask a host of gathered Gundam fans: if one was to watch one's first Gundam series, what ought it to be? I'm not much of a mecha fan (thought I love RahXephon beyond measure), but I really believe in giving things a try, so I wouldn't mind some advice.

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Gundam Seed didn't really take off until episode twenty four, and Yoshiyuki Tomino's beloved original never really took off at all

I never addressed this particularly absurd bit of the review.

First, to say the original series never "took off" is ridiculous. Sure it has some slower moving parts around the middle, but it takes off sooner, around the Garma Zabi arc.

Gundam Seed never seems to take off at all. It's a bland, watered down version of the original Mobile Suit Gundam, with a little Zeta thrown in to spice it up.

It's not even really "bad", per se, because "bad" implies it has some sort of impact. It's one of the most manafactured anime I've ever seen.