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And yes, seeing a prominent (and now apparently former) West Coast VA hooking up with Funi...that's just more win right there.

don't assume former, johny yong bosch was in beck. besides I think they have ways to record some1 out of state, ie laura bailey moved to cali but is still in funi dubs and I doubt she flies back and forth.

BTW, I second the montion for seeing more Shkugan no Shana, and The Familiar of Zero. If Funimation doesn't act fast then Media Blasters might steal those titles and put a differant dub cast in it like they did with Ikkitousen: Dragon Destiny.

Hannish Lightning wrote:

Quote: It's fact that the script for the dub is terribly inaccurate, so voices aside, it's a poor dub. Who cares if the script is inaccurate.

People with standards.

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The Yu Yu Hakusho dub script was inaccurate from the original, it was an entirely different script and the show was better for it.

They take far less liberties with YYH than with DBZ.

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And I can't believe there are people out there that can even take the subbed version of DBZ seriously , the voices are just ridiculous. Every moment seems like a joke.

Most people who are fans of the show take that track seriously. The voices are natural voices for the characters' personalities, not some over-the-top cartoonish bullshit like in the English dub.

What's a joke is how that horrendous dub still has fans. It's basically calling you stupid, and you're agreeing with it.

Let me ask you something, what is DBZ...... oh yeah it's a cartoon, I'll be damned. How can that be? Also, forgive me for not seeing how a grown man sounding like a little girl is not cartoon is and that him sounding like a man is????

If you have standards then you must have some pretty low standard to thing that the Japanese dub is more entertaining and sound better.

joystick1101 wrote:

Quote: And yes, seeing a prominent (and now apparently former) West Coast VA hooking up with Funi...that's just more win right there. don't assume former, johny yong bosch was in beck. besides I think they have ways to record some1 out of state, ie laura bailey moved to cali but is still in funi dubs and I doubt she flies back and forth.

I don't know about Laura but there's also Kyle Hebert (who also lives in Cali now) who has flown to Dallas to work in FUNi roles (as proven by his previous Twitter messages).

Rinkwolf wrote:

BTW, I second the montion for seeing more Shkugan no Shana, and The Familiar of Zero. If Funimation doesn't act fast then Media Blasters might steal those titles and put a differant dub cast in it like they did with Ikkitousen: Dragon Destiny.

I don't know about Shana but considering the people that were really behind the first season Zero dub and MB's current business relationship with them (with Blade Of The Immortal being their most recent dub) i wouldn't worry about the rest of Zero if they did pick up and dub it instead.

Rinkwolf wrote:

Let me ask you something, what is DBZ...... oh yeah it's a cartoon, I'll be damned. How can that be? Also, forgive me for not seeing how a grown man sounding like a little girl is not cartoon is and that him sounding like a man is???? If you have standards then you must have some pretty low standard to thing that the Japanese dub is more entertaining and sound better.

Me and the majority of anime fans who prefer accurate dubs must have pretty low standards, then.

If a dub transforms a show from what it's intended to be to something else entirely, it's not a dub of that show. It's a gag dub. DBZ basically has a gag dub.

You're living in an incredibly closed off bubble if you think the majority of the anime fan community takes the DBZ dub seriously. It skews the characters differently than Toriyama intended them (moreso than the anime does in general) and often completely changes the context and tone of scenes.

Look, it's fine, you like the American DBZ. But it's a different show. As an English dub for the Japanese DBZ, it's a very poor product. Nobody would put up with this level of failure for any other show, but DBZ gets a pass purely out of nostalgia.

In Japanese, Goku has the same voice as when he was a child because he is a pure-hearted child even as an adult. This makes him a colorful, fun personality, allowing him to react to each new situation as something more exciting and challenging, as if he were a kid. Nozawa is a perfect Goku because her Goku is boundless with character, with texture. She delivers every line with an earnest charm. Toriyama himself chose her.

Is it necessary for him to have a woman's voice? No, of course not. A good male English voice would suit him just as well. But so far, all they've gotten are men who sound like generic white knight superheroes.

Most viewers of DBZ figured this out about a decade ago. But that's besides the point. You can't base your liking or disliking of a dub based on a single voice.

It's fact that the script for the dub is terribly inaccurate, so voices aside, it's a poor dub.

penguintruth wrote:

Rinkwolf wrote: Let me ask you something, what is DBZ...... oh yeah it's a cartoon, I'll be damned. How can that be? Also, forgive me for not seeing how a grown man sounding like a little girl is not cartoon is and that him sounding like a man is???? If you have standards then you must have some pretty low standard to thing that the Japanese dub is more entertaining and sound better. Me and the majority of anime fans who prefer accurate dubs must have pretty low standards, then. If a dub transforms a show from what it's intended to be to something else entirely, it's not a dub of that show. It's a gag dub. DBZ basically has a gag dub.

The Japanese dub in intend for the Japanese Fans and the English dub intend for the American Fans, what is so hard to understand?

Also, the Japanese dub is more like a gag dub to most American fans, it is too me and any one I meet, be it in real like or on the internet. What you are talking about is a secluded small fraction of fans that are always bitching on now a show is not a accurate interpretation from the Japanese show, as if it has to be a word for word translation. Get over yourself, if it was as bad as you way they why did it sell and why is it considered a huge success.

Rinkwolf wrote:

penguintruth wrote: Rinkwolf wrote: Let me ask you something, what is DBZ...... oh yeah it's a cartoon, I'll be damned. How can that be? Also, forgive me for not seeing how a grown man sounding like a little girl is not cartoon is and that him sounding like a man is???? If you have standards then you must have some pretty low standard to thing that the Japanese dub is more entertaining and sound better. Me and the majority of anime fans who prefer accurate dubs must have pretty low standards, then. If a dub transforms a show from what it's intended to be to something else entirely, it's not a dub of that show. It's a gag dub. DBZ basically has a gag dub. The Japanese dub in intend for the Japanese Fans and the English dub intend for the American Fans, what is so hard to understand? Also, the Japanese dub is more like a gag dub to most American fans, it is too me and any one I meet, be it in real like or on the internet. What you are talking about is a secluded small fraction of fans that are always bitching on now a show is not a accurate interpretation from the Japanese show, as if it has to be a word for word translation. Get over yourself, if it was as bad as you way they why did it sell and why is it considered a huge success.

Don't kid yourself. DBZ was a success because it was edgier than any American cartoon that aired when it aired on American television, not because the steps Funimation took to transform it into an American cartoon.

And don't mistake DBZ's dub for the average English dub. The average anime English dub is an English version of a Japanese show. The DBZ dub is a reversioning of a show to the lowest common denominator.

Long-time anime fans, in general, look at the DBZ dub as an example of poor quality.

Also, another point of quality in dub. How are you supposed to hake a guy that sounds like a girl seriously when he talks to you about life and how you should cherish it because Goku does that a lot in the show.

Rinkwolf wrote:

Also, another point of quality in dub. How are you supposed to hake a guy that sounds like a girl seriously when he talks to you about life and how you should cherish it because Goku does that a lot in the show.

You're not supposed to take Goku that seriously. That's the point of the character. He's a childish hillbilly who sometimes saves the universe.

Also, in the Japanese, Goku doesn't really go off on ridiculous tirades on how life is precious. That's a lot of moralizing nonsense the dub added to educate stupid American children.

But by all means, enjoy your Superman version. I prefer Toriyama's vision of the character.

Discussions like these make me thankful we have the Japanese dub AND, get this, the English dub on almost all DVD and Blu-Ray releases in North America. It saves time, anger and forum posting

Jih2 wrote:

Discussions like these make me thankful we have the Japanese dub AND, get this, the English dub on almost all DVD and Blu-Ray releases in North America. It saves time, anger and forum posting

lol True that. I never thought would live to see the day that someone says they like the Japanese dub of DBZ.

Rinkwolf wrote:

Jih2 wrote: Discussions like these make me thankful we have the Japanese dub AND, get this, the English dub on almost all DVD and Blu-Ray releases in North America. It saves time, anger and forum posting lol True that. I never thought would live to see the day that someone says they like the Japanese dub of DBZ.

Denial is strong with you. You really think you're in the majority opinion.

Guess what? He is in the majority. Nearly everyone thinks the Japanese dubbed DBZ is a joke only a small fraction of fans even like it. No one in their right mind could ever take that show seriously with those ridiculous voices. You're only fooling yourself if you actually believe the majority of fans out there actually like the subbed version better.

I'm still wondering if FMA: BH will be shown on Cartoonnetworks' Adult Swim.