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Hey, Answerman! [2007-08-31]

Invader_Spooch wrote:

@Veoryn87: I did say I thought both Rahxephon and Evangelion had stellar performances.

Haha! Forgive me. It was early in the morning and I was tired. I didn't read it correctly.

Over the course of the year I've been liking Geneon less and less. Sure, they get some good stuff, but they cost SO MUCH! Gungrave is about $100. Each volume of one of their shows is about $25 at Best Buy (about $5 more expensive than most anime volumes there). And the worst thing of all....... They haven't released a Gankutsuou thinpack yet. Hopefully ADV will soon.

The problem with Geneon's version of Saiyuki is everyone got used to ADV's first. ADV has always played fast & loose with dubs. Illich Guardiola made a great Gojyo. Sounds SQUAT like Hiroaki Hirata. Same goes for all of ADV's cast. (One can argue Greg Ayres/Souichiro Hoshi, but Ayres is much raspier than Hoshi) Faced with being unable to reproduce that dub, Geneon's version settled for closer to the Japanese voice actors most of whom had a bit more experience under their belts than the ADV VA's dubbing them. Every time I found a questionable spot in the Geneon dub, I backed it up & listened in Japanese-much closer in pitch & mood so one would have to say Geneon's versions of Reload & Gunlock are a more accurate dub

CCSYueh wrote:

The problem with Geneon's version of Saiyuki is everyone got used to ADV's first. ADV has always played fast & loose with dubs. Illich Guardiola made a great Gojyo. Sounds SQUAT like Hiroaki Hirata. Same goes for all of ADV's cast. (One can argue Greg Ayres/Souichiro Hoshi, but Ayres is much raspier than Hoshi) Faced with being unable to reproduce that dub, Geneon's version settled for closer to the Japanese voice actors most of whom had a bit more experience under their belts than the ADV VA's dubbing them. Every time I found a questionable spot in the Geneon dub, I backed it up & listened in Japanese-much closer in pitch & mood so one would have to say Geneon's versions of Reload & Gunlock are a more accurate dub

I wish/pray that Adv goes back and re-dubs those. I've seen Saiyuki in japanese- but I loved the ADV cast. The Genon cast...not at all. Plus I refused to shell out $30 for a dvd of a show I can't stand to watch.

I hope they can do that even if it was boxset only. I know my friend would too. (she loved greg ayres). I know two people don't count of squawt but still. it'd be another reason for me to love Adv.

Well, BV sure likes the 1-2 episode per disc format
Hellsing Ultimate is 1 episode per disc
I believe Yukikaze was released on 2 episode discs

But you are right, 4 is the norm, more or less. Most DVDs have 4-5 episodes, with drops to 3 on some volumes.

britannicamoore wrote:

CCSYueh wrote: The problem with Geneon's version of Saiyuki is everyone got used to ADV's first. ADV has always played fast & loose with dubs. Illich Guardiola made a great Gojyo. Sounds SQUAT like Hiroaki Hirata. Same goes for all of ADV's cast. (One can argue Greg Ayres/Souichiro Hoshi, but Ayres is much raspier than Hoshi) Faced with being unable to reproduce that dub, Geneon's version settled for closer to the Japanese voice actors most of whom had a bit more experience under their belts than the ADV VA's dubbing them. Every time I found a questionable spot in the Geneon dub, I backed it up & listened in Japanese-much closer in pitch & mood so one would have to say Geneon's versions of Reload & Gunlock are a more accurate dub I wish/pray that Adv goes back and re-dubs those. I've seen Saiyuki in japanese- but I loved the ADV cast. The Genon cast...not at all. Plus I refused to shell out $30 for a dvd of a show I can't stand to watch. I hope they can do that even if it was boxset only. I know my friend would too. (she loved greg ayres). I know two people don't count of squawt but still. it'd be another reason for me to love Adv.

That is a nice idea. The Saiyuki dub. I so preferred ADV's dub to Geneons. Gojyo did sound better but Hakkai, Sanzo and Goku didn't. Has to make ya wonder if ADV has any plans to eventually re-dub some of the older Geneon works. Stuff from the Pioneer days.

I know I'm behind the curve in replying to this topic, but it just really bugged me.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, just consider the possibility that there's more ways to be happy than what you can think of.

It just felt like someone had walked into someone else's house and started giving their opinion(does that make me a hypocrite?). I'm not claiming to be an expert, but from what perspective are you making your judgments?

Is Korea at fault for not being Japan?

I really like The Host. There were parts where I didn't know what to think, but I kept in mind that this movie might not have been made with American consumption in mind and therefore, meeting different standards. I thought tossing this movie in at the last minute with no qualifying explanation was just cheap. It's not even anime.

I know I'm behind the curve in replying to this topic, but it just really bugged me.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, just consider the possibility that there's more ways to be happy than what you can think of.

It just felt like someone had walked into someone else's house and started giving their opinion(does that make me a hypocrite?). I'm not claiming to be an expert, but from what perspective are you making your judgments?

Is Korea at fault for not being Japan?

I really like The Host. There were parts where I didn't know what to think, but I kept in mind that this movie might not have been made with American consumption in mind and therefore, meeting different standards. I thought tossing this movie in at the last minute with no qualifying explanation was just cheap. It's not even anime.

psycho 101 wrote:

britannicamoore wrote: CCSYueh wrote: The problem with Geneon's version of Saiyuki is everyone got used to ADV's first. ADV has always played fast & loose with dubs. Illich Guardiola made a great Gojyo. Sounds SQUAT like Hiroaki Hirata. Same goes for all of ADV's cast. (One can argue Greg Ayres/Souichiro Hoshi, but Ayres is much raspier than Hoshi) Faced with being unable to reproduce that dub, Geneon's version settled for closer to the Japanese voice actors most of whom had a bit more experience under their belts than the ADV VA's dubbing them. Every time I found a questionable spot in the Geneon dub, I backed it up & listened in Japanese-much closer in pitch & mood so one would have to say Geneon's versions of Reload & Gunlock are a more accurate dub I wish/pray that Adv goes back and re-dubs those. I've seen Saiyuki in japanese- but I loved the ADV cast. The Genon cast...not at all. Plus I refused to shell out $30 for a dvd of a show I can't stand to watch. I hope they can do that even if it was boxset only. I know my friend would too. (she loved greg ayres). I know two people don't count of squawt but still. it'd be another reason for me to love Adv. That is a nice idea. The Saiyuki dub. I so preferred ADV's dub to Geneons. Gojyo did sound better but Hakkai, Sanzo and Goku didn't. Has to make ya wonder if ADV has any plans to eventually re-dub some of the older Geneon works. Stuff from the Pioneer days.

Hmm. I'm not sure redubbing something like Lain or Haibane Renmei could turn a profit for them. Or redoing anything else, for that matter. With the Saiyuki it's understandable though, because an ADV Saiyuki dub already exists. Just...redoing other shows seems a little...eh, I don't even know how to describe it...just wrong, I guess.

I think we can all agree that the Hellsing Ultimate one-episode-per-disc situation is regrettable, but seeing that Satelight isn't able to keep their production schedule reliable, Geneon has little choice if they want their release schedule to be at all consistent. I'm still not sure why Geneon's (or should I say ADV now?) releasing OVA III in the US before the fourth one comes out in Japan, but whatever.

Veoryn87 wrote:

Invader_Spooch wrote: @Veoryn87: I did say I thought both Rahxephon and Evangelion had stellar performances. Haha! Forgive me. It was early in the morning and I was tired. I didn't read it correctly. Over the course of the year I've been liking Geneon less and less. Sure, they get some good stuff, but they cost SO MUCH! Gungrave is about $100. Each volume of one of their shows is about $25 at Best Buy (about $5 more expensive than most anime volumes there). And the worst thing of all....... They haven't released a Gankutsuou thinpack yet. Hopefully ADV will soon.

Gankutsuou box set is being released in a few months at MSRP of $149.98. Slightly more affordable than the Samurai Champloo box set...

britannicamoore wrote:

I wish/pray that Adv goes back and re-dubs those. I've seen Saiyuki in japanese- but I loved the ADV cast. The Genon cast...not at all. Plus I refused to shell out $30 for a dvd of a show I can't stand to watch. I hope they can do that even if it was boxset only. I know my friend would too. (she loved greg ayres). I know two people don't count of squawt but still. it'd be another reason for me to love Adv.

That is a nice idea. The Saiyuki dub. I so preferred ADV's dub to Geneons. Gojyo did sound better but Hakkai, Sanzo and Goku didn't. Has to make ya wonder if ADV has any plans to eventually re-dub some of the older Geneon works. Stuff from the Pioneer days.