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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:53 pm Reply with quote
It's a simple as this:

In Japan, comics are called "manga". In America (and other places) "manga" is a term used to describe specifically Japanese comics.

In Japan, cartoons are called "anime". In America (and other places), "anime" is a term used to describe specifically Japanese cartoons.

The reason why a lot of anime fans like to say anime isn't cartoons is because it excuses the stigma of watching cartoons beyond the years of childhood.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:54 pm Reply with quote
hentai4me wrote:
So, while the majority of his options will come through congress and the support of his party in there he nonetheless has the power to impose any law he wants? (surely imprisoning all Japanese-Americans is a breach of some part of the constitution? Are his executive powers above the constitution?) Plus you have different rules for voting in different states...that's not exactly fair is it? Do those differences lead to varying levels of voter power in different states then? (is winning in some states worth more than others, excluding population factors)


No, presidential use of the executive decision is fairly limited in scope. In function it most commonly applies to military-related matters; for example, the President can order troops into a foreign country without having to get Congress's permission, although at some point he's going to have to deal with Congress about the funding to keep them there. He can also be overruled by the Supreme Court if they think he's stepped out of line. Most Presidents tread very judiciously about doing things purely by executive order because they know there are often serious political repercussions if they push things too far. The Japanese-American internment situation during WWII was a unique case fueled by special wartime expansions of presidential power, something which also happened during WWI.

As for the "different voting rules in States," there's not that much variability, actually, as considerable federal and Constitutional law establishes what states can and can't do. Choosing electors for the electoral college system does vary some from state to state, but several scholars nowadays think that the electoral college system for choosing the President is an archaic system. It was originally intended to minimize the negative impact of easily-swayed uneducated masses on elections, something which has now outlived its usefulness.

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Is it me (and of course my experience with) or is the UK parliamentary system far easier to follow...though perhaps not as completely democratic as it could be (unelected Lords, Monarchs right to block almost anything)...How the hell do religious leaders get hereditary, political power in a modern secular state! Bishops in the house of lords!


That's a purely British perspective. As someone with the equivalent of a college minor in Government, I know that you'd be hard-pressed to find American scholars that favor the British system over ours. Besides, even though our (essentially) two-party system has some issues, it entirely avoids problems of government collapsing (and I'm not talking about just operating inefficiently here) because multi-party coalitions required to maintain a majority vote fall apart, which is not an unknown occurrence in most countries with numerous feasible special-interest parties. In the U.S., we pretty much get that out of the way at the Primaries level.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:09 pm Reply with quote
@SakechanBD: Bravo for that very honest post with Truism about an economic model based on 'I don't give a crap so long as I get rich'.

Greetings Everyone. I am a long time reader of Zac's column (As far back actually as to when it was Answerwoman (or person) if any of you remember that far). And yes I am aware of the fact that it was not Zac at the helm back then.

Normally I simply avoid the fall out from Zac's very honest and outspoken way of putting things in the forums (Honest can equate to harsh at times). Naturally when you are resolute on something there is always going to be someone that is just as resolute shouting at the top of their lungs in the opposite direction (isn't Freedom grand?). I have been reading and perusing the discussion here and have noticed a lot of division.

Let's throw some positives out there and see if they help at all. A wise person once said to me "Democracy is the worst form of Government... except for everything else". The fact that we have the Freedom to argue or debate or even accuse (yes it seems that some posts have fallen to that level) each other of being anything but a human being with our own ideas and right to live as we see best fits us, is overlooking the big picture a bit isn't it?

Let's make some objective observations here.
Not being able to feed my family even if I work two jobs is a problem. (And since I make under $30,000 a year I can safely say I am on the bottom rung of the middle class and am very THANKFUL to be there as there are Billions of human beings on this planet that have it much worse off than I do).

I am not evil. Rather I don't think of myself as such but also from an objective point of view the way I know I am not evil is simply that my actions are not malevolent (And I ensure that by my actions or lack thereof that malevolent actions do not take place if I can help it at all). Nor do I Support malevolent actions from others be they a President, a Police Officer, a brother or an Answer columnist for a very small corner of the internet. I have the freedom to be Malevolent if I wanted to, to certain degrees. Just because you have the freedom to do something does not mean that Freedom goes away if you do not practice the extreme of it. Quite the opposite actually. Those who become wise understand that mutual beneficence and patience for differences is most definitively beneficial to more than just the human being that chooses to act in that way.

That being said, when I see someone like Zac saying "I think THIS PERSON is racist for being XY or Z" I would hope that this kind of Judgment would not be made lightly by anyone. It has no sway on my anime viewing habits or the way I view this website and does not really affect my views on Government either as I tend to not believe a single thing that is said on the Internet until I actually check things out. I would have the optimism that my fellow internet users and human beings would show both tact and wisdom in waiting to make judgments based on facts (something lacking in the modern media at times as well as from the internet 'blogosphere' that some would hold as high as any Biblical Text or law on the books).

I am an American. I am not ashamed of such. You may shoot me for this if your shortcomings or insecurities make you feel silencing me when I say with pride "I am an American" will accomplish anything. I would either die clutching to my Freedoms or decide at that time if I survived whether my life was more important than yours (I tend to lean toward pacifism but this is quite literally tested under fire). The kind of American and Human Beings for that matter I would be proud to be associated with is the kind that understands that Freedom comes at the cost of constant vigilance. 'Vigilance' does not mean 'Looking to give a black eye to anyone who disagrees with me'. Rather it means a constant watch for those that misdirect, lie, twist, and hypocritically admonish their fellow humanity for things that they cannot objectify within them self (This is obviously fighting human nature and does not come naturally or easily). Maybe if we work to both heal their own imperfections, but Heaven forbid, actually help another human beings of ANY Race, Religion, color, sex, creed, or lack thereof to make an informed decision (Freedom means you do this on your own and of your own free will) that we might be able to accomplish a thing or two.

This last part is my opinion.

Please do not push your Political or Personal views on others forcefully (If you accept my words please do so by informed enlightenment, not just because you 'read it somewhere'). If you are going to make a point, at least make a sound and reasonable explanation for it and see if those who can make their own decisions agree with you. If you consider yourself one group or another, the easiest way to convince others you are right is to LIVE and ACT as what you believe first as an example (The only way to not look like a hypocrite I might add). I am doing this myself by posting here because I could not see anyone else representing my view and also being objective about all of this. If you believe that snuffing out another's opinions will help your position then you are no better than they that you are standing against.

Whew! Just to let this be a valid post, I do kinda take it personally when someone calls my favorite hobby 'cartoons' or 'comics' when the tone is one of dismissal. I've had a lot of people make fun of me for loving what I do but eventually I simply cam e to the conclusion that the only way to deal with closed mindedness is to wave facts right in front of the persons nose once. They from that point on can ponder and make their own opinions as I would expect no less from a fellow human of any sort of intelligence. It has no final bearing on what I love, but I may just become wiser in understanding sometimes there are people out there who don't agree with me and that's perfectly alright if they are willing to give me some basic human rights including respect and the freedom to choose.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:34 pm Reply with quote
Note to self: never discuss politics.

I'm excited that Answerman printed my letter, but he spelt my last name wrong Sad. Also I hope I didn't come off as arrogant when I said that I think my idea could be a worldwide hit. I just get excited sometimes when I get the chance to talk about my ideas. But I do think what I want to do could bring in people who do look down on anime and label it either "child's stuff" or "violent cartoon pornography" (and yeah I've heard some people call it that).

Also great taste in music, Answerman. I own all of both Polysics & Melt-Banana's CDs; and the latter is amazing to see live. If you want to hear another great indie musician for Japan, I suggest Cornelius (the Beck of Japan, who worked with him on a "Mixed Bizness" remix). Find the album "Fantasma," plug in your headphones, and just enjoy the ride Wink!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:18 pm Reply with quote
omnistry: I thought Beck was the Beck of Japan... he's pretty popular there, isn't he?

Joking aside, I take that as a high recommendation. I'll keep my ears out.

Isn't it fun to be part of the "my existence was acknowledged by Zac Bertschy" club? Mine was first though, neener neener neener.

ric4001: Thank you very much, sir. You are a gentleman.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:42 am Reply with quote
Posting my 2¢ here again.

While I don't particularly agree with Answerman's harsh accusations, it's his column and he can do what he wants. Don't agree? Stop reading. That simple. It's pretty hypocritical to first claim you're a libertarian and then tell someone they can't express their opinion.

My primary concerns going into this election are personal freedoms. Within the past decade, and especially within the last couple of years, Congress has been feeling immense pressure by large corporations and by the current President to write into law measures that greatly effect the average persons' rights to privacy and to live freely. From neither major party do I see very many people willing to speak much on the matter or fight against it.

This is why I've been very interested in the campaigns of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, and have also been annoyed at the mass media's concept of them as "non-candidates", thereby effectively ensuring the term to become a truth.

I don't understand how libertarianism can be viewed as something illogical and borderline insane. The idea that we have the right to do what we want, the quest for freedom, isn't that what the country was founded on in the first place? Of course in its purist form it devolves into anarchy which in turn leaves nobody with any rights (as anybody would have the right to remove the rights of another person). But coupled with the concept of rational ethics it makes a hell of a lot of sense.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:31 am Reply with quote
I have no interest in Japanese music. Regular old North American Rock is more for me.

I can see making a bit more of an issue out of calling something a cartoon since it carries a fairly negative connotation. However, comic really isn't that bad is it? I mean, isn't it fairly commonly used to describe American graphic novels still?

Ron Paul seems like a nut. Someone with radical views who will make changes might be a good thing, but not the radical views he has. The thing that really pushes it from supporting a questionable candidate to actual flakiness is calling him the "pro-anime" candidate. I don't know what it is that causes some anime fans to believe the delusion that other people actually give a damn about anime. There are not "pro-anime" and "anti-anime" candidates. There are "what the hell is anime?" candidates and maybe, just maybe the odd "that’s like Japanese cartoons right?" candidates.

Psycho 101 wrote:
While in some c`ases a 30 second may or may not be enough to judge a show, in terms of if it will appeal to you or not, but that combined with this old classic idea of actually READING up on the title should be. I mean seriously, if you took the time to read the synopsis of the story that alone should tell you if you're going to like the show or not since you'll know what it's about. If however you are on the ropes and not sure either way after that then a 30 second clip should be enough to sway you either way. And by clip I do mean it has some parts of the actual show in it as a real preview should, not just the opening credits.


Well, that will certainly tell you if it is a show you might like. You can get a good idea if it is the type of thing that is likely to appeal to you because it is about the kind of thing that usually appeals to you. However, neither anime nor people are that predictable. Anime with very similar subject matter can have drastically different results.

SakechanBD wrote:
Consider reading up on basic economic structure and principles.


But is it not basic economic principle that price floors such as a minimum wage are bad? All they do is decrease the net welfare gain and create a surplus of workers and a shortage of employment? I don't doubt that when you consider larger issues a minimum wage is a good idea but by basic economic structure and principles it is not. I don't mean to attack your argument here. I'm just curious what exactly you meant here.

rpb3000 wrote:
While I don't particularly agree with Answerman's harsh accusations, it's his column and he can do what he wants. Don't agree? Stop reading. That simple. It's pretty hypocritical to first claim you're a libertarian and then tell someone they can't express their opinion.


You know though, just because someone says they think his view on this is wrong doesn't automatically mean they must be saying he cannot or should not be able to express it.

Also claiming he should not be pushing his political opinion in his column (although I don't think he's doing that) is not the same as claiming flat out he can't have or express an opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:39 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
But is it not basic economic principle that price floors such as a minimum wage are bad? All they do is decrease the net welfare gain and create a surplus of workers and a shortage of employment? I don't doubt that when you consider larger issues a minimum wage is a good idea but by basic economic structure and principles it is not. I don't mean to attack your argument here. I'm just curious what exactly you meant here.


Actually, no, or at least it's very much not that simple. You shouldn't have a "shortage of employment", because human desire is limitless and there's always something else someone wants done; if you do have a shortage of "employment that people are willing to pay for", it's a sign of something else significantly wrong with your economy. Fiat money [see, this is the key argument against the gold standard] means that absolute shortages of liquidity don't happen any more [or shouldn't], so it's probably a liquidity-distribution [==income-distribution, more-or-less] problem. Which is fixed by higher min. wages, oddly enough.

Also, of course: because human labour is the basic unit of consumption as well, the only way to increase production-per-consumption-unit [that is, standards of living] is to redirect labour from fields which produce little per labour unit to fields which produce much per labour unit. Raising overall wage levels [raising the cost of labour] is a market-based way of achiving exactly that, of reducing labour waste and increasing efficiencies.
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All I am going to say for bad trailers is one thing: The wallflower

It has nothing to do with it and they are making the guys look like they are ... homosexual.

But with the trailers I would have never would have seen some excellent anime X3
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Meccanica wrote:
The idea that someone who does not share your chosen (or any particular) ideology is the equivalent of Hitler is, to put it one way, loony. To put it a nicer way, it's rationally unsound. A 'monstrous evil?' Most certainly not. In fact, that's pretty much the totalitarian way of thinking.

It's also not what I said. What I said was that anyone in government who doesn't apply the liberterian principle is tantamount to the dictators of the past. A person in government is charged with the just execution of allowed force. If that person exercised that force unjustly, they are evil. Degrees of evil are just that. A person becomes evil the moment they use force to achieve their ends, even if those ends are well-intentioned.

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The whole point of Godwin's law is, according to Godwin (via wikipedia...), that "overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact."
Similarly, it kind of robs whatever else you say of credibility as well.

What criteria make such a comparison valid? The problem with Hitler wasn't his anti-Semitism or his worldview; it was that he killed people. In other words, that his worldview was applied to government. Today's governments kill people too, only they hide the trail better. Provide free medicine to one person, and one for-profit doctor closes his practice, meaning he's not there when another person wants to pay for his medicine. Pay for one person to live without working, and the business that needs a low-income worker has to spend more, meaning there's less for the business owner to invest in research and development. Degrees of evil, but still evil.

SakechanBD wrote:

You have a job that needs to be done. You're offering $2/hr. Most people would refuse that, but along comes someone who desperately needs that money, so they take the job. Okay, both parties win, right?

Wrong.

Because you were able to get away with only paying $2/hr, you continue to do so. And more desperate people take the job. They continue to be ridiculously pour, and begin taking other $2/hr jobs so they can find scraps of food to eat. So other people who are also only offering $2/hr continue their trend of paying absolute dirt. The process repeats. (Not to mention the people who are putting their foot down and saying, "No, I can't work for this money, I need to feed my family" get totally screwed, because there will always, ALWAYS be someone willing to work for less, but let me continue.)

You get rich, and the poor become impoverished. Then they can't buy things (clothes, food, gas, toothpaste, what have you), and the retail market collapses. There are further implications, and plenty of variations, but I'll stop here.

In the end, you have a life where things are absolute sh*t, and not only are things insufferable for most of the country, but you prove that you're not only a raging dickhead, but also a perpetrator of all this nonsense. Congratulations, sir, your selfishness destroys America.

Consider reading up on basic economic structure and principles.

Things are sh*t only for those people without the skills or the desire to take the reins in their life and become the person who is doing the hiring. Think about the economic structure in America before the Depression. You had a few big factories, and many unskilled laborers there, but you also had a lot of sole-proprietorship businesses. Anyone who wanted out of the factories had but to save up for a few years, buy some stock of goods, and start a store. Or learn a trade and offer it to the public. Of course, that required you to work long hours with no guaranteed paycheck for them. You banked on your own ability. Today, people want the same reward with no risk and for the same amount of work as done in the sustanance job. And who pays? The factory owner, the successful businessman. Which makes fewer people want to go into business, which makes working for others more attractive and so on. Vicious circle.

So it depends on your standards of value. Who should the economy reward? The hard-working innovator, or the lazy unskilled? I say the former.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:07 am Reply with quote
Steroid wrote:
Things are sh*t only for those people without the skills or the desire to take the reins in their life and become the person who is doing the hiring. Think about the economic structure in America before the Depression. You had a few big factories, and many unskilled laborers there, but you also had a lot of sole-proprietorship businesses. Anyone who wanted out of the factories had but to save up for a few years, buy some stock of goods, and start a store. Or learn a trade and offer it to the public. Of course, that required you to work long hours with no guaranteed paycheck for them. You banked on your own ability. Today, people want the same reward with no risk and for the same amount of work as done in the sustanance job. And who pays? The factory owner, the successful businessman. Which makes fewer people want to go into business, which makes working for others more attractive and so on. Vicious circle.

So it depends on your standards of value. Who should the economy reward? The hard-working innovator, or the lazy unskilled? I say the former.
I find myself gob smacked at this bit of rapore coming from the likes of you. You? Mr. I-get-my-anime-for-free-because-I-deserve-it-and-don't-care-if-the-authors-and-distributors-get-their-money-because-that's-not-my-problem? What's a hypocrite again?
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Zac wrote:

Yep. Huckabee is nearly as insane as Ron Paul. He believes the Earth is 6000 years old and doesn't believe in evolution. Cuckoo!

So by your comment, I take it all Christians are cuckoos too, huh? Because a lot of Christians don't believe in evolution, you know. Evil or Very Mad
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Yes. Those "Christians" (Whoever gave the fundies the right to arrogate that term to themselves? They no more define the word "Christian" than Mike the Squeegee-Waving Hobo defines the word "entrepreneur".) who believe evolution is false, and that the Earth was literally created as in the Book of Genesis.... these people are cuckoos. At best ignorant and deluded, at worst completely round the bend, barking-at-the-moon insane.

Don't equate "Barking mad American Christian fundamentalists" with "all Christians". Fortunately, most of us live in the 21st century AD, not BC.

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rocklobster wrote:
Zac wrote:

Yep. Huckabee is nearly as insane as Ron Paul. He believes the Earth is 6000 years old and doesn't believe in evolution. Cuckoo!

So by your comment, I take it all Christians are cuckoos too, huh? Because a lot of Christians don't believe in evolution, you know. Evil or Very Mad


Just because a lot of them don't believe in it doesn't make it any less crazy.

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Today's governments kill people too, only they hide the trail better. Provide free medicine to one person, and one for-profit doctor closes his practice, meaning he's not there when another person wants to pay for his medicine. Pay for one person to live without working, and the business that needs a low-income worker has to spend more, meaning there's less for the business owner to invest in research and development. Degrees of evil, but still evil.


So what a National Health service that should (not always successfully in reality) provide health care for anyone and everyone is bad?

Because a person can't afford the medicine they need to live because the person selling the medicine can charge whatever they want for it the sick person deserves to die?

Sounds like Alan B'stard

"You're poor, you get sick, you die. No more poor people, and people think the Conservatives have no heart..."
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Mohawk52 wrote:
I find myself gob smacked at this bit of rapore coming from the likes of you. You? Mr. I-get-my-anime-for-free-because-I-deserve-it-and-don't-care-if-the-authors-and-distributors-get-their-money-because-that's-not-my-problem? What's a hypocrite again?

There's no contradiction if you view it through the prism of a free libertarian society. In such a society, you're required by sheer economics to work hard to get your money, but then that money can be put toward any form of consumption you can convince people to offer. The consistent element is, don't use force or law to stop people who aren't themselves using force or law against someone.
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