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GAME: Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

Is this how lose the term misogyny has become? A woman in a bikini? Jesus Christ. Rolling Eyes

"When you realize the reason for her exposure, you will be shamed by your words and deeds"

Are you purposely ignoring Chico's role in the events and what effect it has on him or what? Chico was raped too. Please don't tell me this is some kind of "men can't get raped" double standard thing. "Oh well he doesn't count LOL"

As for why, well, if 'Skullface is crazy' isn't enough of a reason it was also to get what we wanted and to force Chico to do what he wanted. Did you even play the game? They pretty clearly explain it all. And I guess his soldiers needing something to do and like it or not POWs tend to be how soldiers release their stress.

Yeah man, standing up for misogyny is truly a respectable thing and totally cool!

You're pathetic.

*sigh*

It would be nice if Kojima could find something resembling a happy medium. Like, I'm not at all sorry to see his games get a bit more serious. I could really do without some of the really stupidly juvenile stuff he seems to insist on tossing in there. Yeah, it's always been over the top and at least a little corny. But a recurring sub-plot about a soldier who poops his pants? I mean, really? But that said, getting all super dark is really no better. This sounds, at best super juvenile in its own right, an immature person's idea of what is mature, and at worst just really exploitative and gross.

There's no apparent empathy behind these tapes, just a hunger and a lust for cruelty. To visit multiple rapes and other violations upon a character purely to forward the main character's development doesn't seem like Metal Gear's style. Metal Gear's track record is not blemish free, but it's certainly never been as blatant as this. This isn't a commentary on the suffering of Guantanamo prisoners, it's a power-fantasy about the no-holds-barred hero that gets to go in and beat up all the bad guys. When the prisoners get punished it isn't putting their struggle on compassionate display, it's using it to amp up the main character's angst.

There's very little of that [infectious cheesiness] here. Where is the cardboard box? Given that this is a follow-up to Peace Walker, where is the tank-shaped cardboard box that fires concussive shells? Instead of a radar Snake has a pair of binoculars for marking targets and that's bit too Far Cry 3, isn't it?

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"When you realize the reason for her exposure, you will be shamed by your words and deeds"

Well then I'm so happy he undermined whatever his intent was by talking about how she was designed for commercial reasons.

There better be good reasons as to why a sniper in the middle east is wearing a bra and ripped stockings. The bra fine(it's hot), but ripped stockings. Come on.

Because really that just opens up another sleazy technique. Using rape to show how bad our villain is.

Volgin was a sadist and even then we didn't have to have him force rape on somebody.

I've hoped to even see a few counter-arguments and reviews that try to justify certain story elements, ones that don't devolve to utter misogyny or "lol feminism." With such viewpoints, I could try to understand myself why Kojima might've gone this route for other than shock value, because it *is* hard for me to believe that he would broach something like rape *just* for shock value. However, I've had little-to-no luck in that search; the reviews and articles I see that *do* praise the game overall either don't mention the grisly stuff at all or also find it irredeemably reprehensible from all angles.

. spoiler[ Meryl got raped too in the first MGS game too if you failed the torture mini game.]

spoiler[Volgin regularly raped Eva with his 'hentai play' which is why she has all those burn scars on her body. Meryl got raped too in the first MGS game too if you failed the torture mini game.]

I don't agree that's 'why' he did it, but if it was, how is that any different than showing how bad the villain is by having them kill or torturing people or other evil things?

Why does it have to be labeled at all? Why can't a game just have rape in it like any other incident? Calling it out implies there's this magical rulebook on how things have to be written when there isn't. We're so accepting of blood, guns, gore, violence, and murder in America but it's the inclusion of rape that makes people start asking questions. I don't really see the seperation or the intent and treat them all equally. It's in there because.. that's what he wanted to do with the story. That's really all the justification that needs to be said when we're dealing with fictional stories and artistic visions.

Why does it have to be labeled at all? Why can't a game just have rape in it like any other incident?

I don't really see the seperation or the intent and treat them all equally.

It's in there because.. that's what he wanted to do with the story. That's really all the justification that needs to be said when we're dealing with fictional stories and artistic visions.

People don't like to see rape, because rape has no positives to it. You can't romanticize rape. You can't turn rape into a positive. You can turn violence into a positive. Heroes have to engage in violence for the greater good ect. No one rapes anyone for the greater good. People rape others for evil means. It is never a good thing. So for you to want to put them on equal grounds makes no sense what so ever.

He just admitted that what they were doing was the complete opposite of artistically driven, but actually completely exploitative. We should applaud him for this?