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Donkey-er
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Very hyped for this. Looks awesome! I hope the gameplay is simular to FFVIIR because I really liked the way that game played.
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Pandsu
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It does look awesome but I'm only cautiously looking forward to it, since Square has let me down in the past, especially with main-line Final Fantasy games. FFXV, for instance, did absolutely nothing for me, which was heartbreaking because of how much I've been looking forward to that game since they first announced it as Versus XIII. FFXIII was meh, FFXII also did nothing for me. So who knows about this one.
I also don't know if I like the apparent lack of a party in this one. But that depends on execution, obviously. The fact that it's made by the FFXIV team is what has me at least somewhat hopeful, since I do enjoy what they've done with that game quite a bit. |
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borisdrakoni
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Yeah, you can at least expect a good story out of it(though several main characters biting the dust along the way wouldn't be a surprise). I personally wish SE would release some more traditional turn based RPGs again instead of leaning more towards pure action with every new installment, but I may pick it up just to see where the story goes. Of course, given the short supply of PS5s at the moment, whether or not I can even get my hands on the necessary hardware before then is another matter entirely. |
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Pandsu
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I agree wholeheartedly. It makes sense why they don't do it, specifically with the big budget mainline ones, but I would absolutely love to see them give that a try again as well, with all the flashiness of the other modern Final Fantasy games. The fact that even Dragon Quest is apparently being 'modernized' and 'westernized' doesn't exactly bode well for that though. |
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Siegfriedl88
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...not that hyped about this , id rather see a FF 7 remake part 2 announcement.
My favorite Final fantasy is 8 but all of them between 4 - 10 were all pretty solid jrpgs. the last one i enjoyed was 13 until they released two sequels to convolute the story, and i just detested everything in 15. So here's hoping its decent and TBH i got more interested in the game that mixed the apocalypse and a dating sim together than this 
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BadNewsBlues
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Let’s be honest though DQ could stand to make changes with how they’re played, presented, and most definitely written. |
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anpansparking
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I'm cautiously optimistic about this one, since I love FFXIV.
I really could not disagree more. The series has plenty of fans who like it the way it is now. |
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bleachj0j
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Don't know why the game being action means "westernized". Makes no sense given the combat director is the same as Devil May Cry and Dragon's Dogma. I'm optimistic given the team and the fact that its the first FF game in a while that doesn't look like it has a shitstorm of a development cycle.
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MFrontier
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It looks really cool, although I'm curious to see how the Summon battles work, but it feels weird to see a mainline game without a party system.
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Pandsu
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In case you're referring to what I said, I didn't say that this is necessarily westernized but that apparently Dragon Quest XII will be. I could be wrong but I feel like I read a statement by the devs that basically says the same in a roundabout kinda way. But to be clear, action combat in big RPGs IS more of a WRPG kinda thing than traditionally a JRPG thing. There's obviously exceptions on both ends and it kinda depends on execution and feel as well, but generally speaking that has traditionally been how that works. And also something can be "westernized" (which is a flawed term, I'll admit) while still being made by Japanese people, just like how something can feel "Japanese style" even if it's made by a non-Japanese creator. There's indie RPGs by US creators that have a JRPG feel and there's Japan-made RPGs (like the Souls games or, from what little I have seen of it, Dragon's Dogma as well) that feel more-or-less western. But yeah. All flawed terms with very fluid, not all that helpful, definitions so it doesn't really matter. |
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AiddonValentine
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I'm mostly interested in XVI because it seems like an FF game doing something new for the first time in way too long and because it's the first one in decades to have a different creative team. Long overdue for a new angle on the series.
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GVman
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I feel like calling FFXVI's combat westernized is a bit of a misnomer. I can't remember where I read it, but turn-based games used to be the bread and butter for Japan. It was their sports games and FPS games. These days, though, action is more popular over there. Final Fantasy has always kinda followed what was popular in Japan, and the recent games are no exception.
Souls games aren't very western, IMO. Gamplay-wise, they draw a lot on the old King's Field and Shadow Tower games, as well as mechanics that originated largely in fighting games and Phantasy Star Online. A lot of Western fantasy action games and RPGs tend to feel a bit airy or floaty to me. There isn't isn't a lot of emphasis on timing or making the player feel the oomph. There's JP fantasy action games that don't make you feel that oomph or have timing be important, too, but that's because they focus more on SPEED. Western fantasy action games lack that fighting game background, and, while plenty of folks understand gunplay and other great elements in the west, it generally has struggled with melee. All that is to say that FFXVI doesn't really feel westernized to me, at least after this trailer. Although, it's funny we're throwing around "westernized" when most of these games (especially Final Fantasy) have all been spawned from western tabletop RPGs and old-as-hell Western PC RPGs like Wizardry. |
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BadNewsBlues
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And by that same token I’m pretty sure there are many fans who see the series as playing things too safe or stale in certain respects. |
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anpansparking
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Although it's impossible to say for sure, I'd be willing to bet that people who feel that way are in the minority among current fans of the series. At least, the majority of current fans I've seen online like the nostalgic, cozy vibe the series has. Anyway, although perhaps you didn't mean it this strongly and merely worded it poorly, saying "Let's be honest" seems to imply that something is definitively true and shouldn't be denied, but, given that I and many others would be quite disappointed about drastic changes to the series, I just felt I had to object. Anyway, since I've gotten completely off the top of Final Fantasy XVI, I will say that I am a bit worried about the possibility of not having a party. One thing I love about jrpgs is the dynamics among party members, and I'll be sad if this doesn't have that. |
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Tripple-A
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This is objectively wrong. The way DQ is played, presented and written is what defines DQ, change that and it's simply not DQ anymore. Almost every fan would be devastated if they start to drastically change the series. Back to FF. I don't even expect a turn based game at this point, but what did surprise me was the lack of a party, that's really weird and I'm sceptical if it will even work. The summons look insane, though how the battles between them will be done wasn't shown. As always with FF, it's hard to say if this one is hit or miss, we'll see. |
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