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NEWS: XSEED: Corpse Party: Blood Drive Will Not Contain Censorship

Based XSEED. I just this will be their standards for all games. No point in buying a game that's censored. I paid my money because I like the erotic stuff or violent stuff and that's what I hope to expect.

That little ESRB bit got me thinking.. Do the game companies who censor their games preemptively censor them, then submit them to the ESRB, or submit the uncensored version and then censor it based on the ESRB's recommendations?

That little ESRB bit got me thinking.. Do the game companies who censor their games preemptively censor them, then submit them to the ESRB, or submit the uncensored version and then censor it based on the ESRB's recommendations?

terminus24 wrote:

That little ESRB bit got me thinking.. Do the game companies who censor their games preemptively censor them, then submit them to the ESRB, or submit the uncensored version and then censor it based on the ESRB's recommendations?

The former. Practically EVERY instance of censorship of that has been done to Japanese games stemming from concerns with the ESRB have all been preemptive. Typically, even the mere possibility of an AO rating is enough to deter many localization companies to censor a game without even bothering to submit it.

That is why when Atlus announced they were censoring Dungeon Travelers 2, they said that an AO rating would would be inevitable, as opposed to just saying it was rated AO. In the case with NISA censoring Criminal Girls, they censored it because the staff was trading backdoor emails with someone who was supposedly from the ESRB and acted soley on his "insider" advice, thus bypassing the ratings process (official ratings are decided on a vote).

In both cases, you never actually see the games listed as being rated AO on www.esrb.org whenever they annonce that they're censoring a title--They intended to censor it before they even submit it to the ESRB, witgout bothering to actually give the official ratings process a chance.

Not one game localized from Japan has ever been through a Manhunt 2-style situation where it was officially rated AO the first time and had to be resubmitted with a censored version.

So kids, the next time you ever hear a localization company announce that they're going to censor a game to avoid an AO rating, you need to check to make sure if it has been officially rated as such by the ESRB by checking it on www.esrb.org. If not, we as fans need to put the pressure on them to see through it that the uncensored content actually gets a fair chance to get officially rated.

Your entire train of thought isn't correct. These niche publishers can't afford to rate twice and go back and censor a game if it gets AO. They do the backdoor process because 1 its offered and 2 it gets them what they need to know up front before submission.

Would you rather see them cancel the product because a second submission and a 6 month delay makes it unviable for them to release it?

Unless you have proof the backdoor ESRB process doesn't work, you're just spewing paranoia. Tom one of the critically acclaimed go to guys to talk about censorship even said Atlus very likely did have to make modifications and the talks with the ESRB before submission are completely valid. I'll take an industry workers word over someone who can't back up their statements.

Would you rather see them cancel the product because a second submission and a 6 month delay makes it unviable for them to release it?