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Mohawk52
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TitanXL
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That's like watching a 4kids dub and saying 'Yep, I expected a 4kids dub, so it was fine'. The awfulness of the Mach Go Go dub doesn't really justify the movie being bad. |
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matthewlow
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I believe someone copy/pasted my "Fate of Conan" post onto Funimation's new boards as well. It seems to travel well...
I'm a huge Conan fan thanks to Cartoon Network, and you can't blame me for not supporting the series as I got the singles, then box sets, then Viridian for no good reason... and I'm sure there are others in a similar boat. I honestly can't see how the series didn't sell enough for a "standard" series. Conan, however, seemed to have a lot more riding on it seeing the status of the series and multitude of changes necessary to make it "mainstream." I think the expectations for it were way too high, as Conan would never become the next... Dragon Ball Z, for example. Like Brian said: Funimation bet the farm, or at least the barn. With lower expectations (and likely nixing the localization), I think it would have succeeded as a niche title. It's sad that now we may never know, though at least with the manga still going, it shows that Conan is not truly dead in the US. Buying a 600+ episode series in singles would be crazy (though I totally would... likely very few others would). I can't see anyone giving Conan a second chance with a dub, but giant sub only box sets would likely be the only chance Conan ever has to come back, by a different company, of course. And even that is wishful thinking, though it looks like some series made it back that way. Conan suffered from a lot of factors, and it is a shame if the rest doesn't make it here, because there's so much that we're missing out on. |
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TitanXL
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Speaking of which, any word how the manga is doing? They're up to like Vol 40+. They're pretty behind the Japanese release, but they're still coming out
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Que_Tal
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yeah any anime based vampire movie would blow up summer box office big time. the teens luv vampires right now. its way in fashion these days...thanks to the WB network and those Twillight movies. i wouldn't say Hellsing though...only because its not teen oriented. they have been saying that dreamworks was going to produce a Ghost in the Shell live action movie....but it never happened. |
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Sailor S
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Correction, teen girls love vampires right now. That's who those Twilight movies and the WB schlock are targeted at. So, from that point of view, Vampire Knight would be a fine fit, since you have a generally non-threatening female lead surrounded by a bevy of pretty male vampires. Hellsing wouldn't necessarily capture that market because it's targeted more to a male audience, and while males might go watch it because it could be pretty cool, they wouldn't flock to it just because it's about vampires. |
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rinmackie
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Did I mention that I like Hellsing AND Vampire Knight? And I haven't been a teenager for about twenty years now. You can't always pigeonhole people by demographics. I think Hellsing would do well at the theaters if done right.
As for Vampire Knight, it's lightyears better then Twilight. Not all vampire romance stories have to suck! 
Edit: Oh yeah, and I'm a female, too. |
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doctordoom85
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Exactly, I'm a guy who enjoys Vampire Knight after all. It's a good dark story. If they made a movie based on Vampire Knight, the trailer would need to say something like, "based on the comic that came out before Twilight", because lord knows the Twilight-obsessed people would accuse VK of being a rip-off simply because it has vampires and a "one girl/two guys" main-character-setup (never mind the fact that the character interaction is vastly different and neither of the guys is a werewolf). |
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Spastic Minnow
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Well, you can't market a show/movie/whatever from the exceptions. I know guys (straight ones) that enjoy Sex in the City but no one counts on their support to carry such a show.
Not every vampire movie will explode, Look at last year's Let Me In for proof. There was some negative press because it was a remake of a very good foreign language film but the only people who cared about that were the geeks who had seen the original. And according to reviews it was a good movie in itself yet it bombed BIG TIME. So Sailor S got it right- the right kind of vampire movies succeed, not every kind. |
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Sailor S
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I enjoy Vampire Knight too, but if they made a VK movie and tried marketing it to 30+ year old males, they'd better hope the movie cost under $10,000 to make, otherwise they'd be hard pressed to make a profit. Demographics aren't pigeonholing anyone. It's not saying "You are not a girl between the ages of 12 and 18. You may not watch this movie!". It's simply looking at the large picture and realizing that that is the most likely market that will watch such a thing, and thus they are going to aggressively push it in a way that presents it to them first and foremost. I guess if you want to call it pigeonholing, I'm not gonna stop you, but to me that's just sound business practice.
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rinmackie
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Well, I think that's why so many Hollywood movies suck. They try too hard to market to one particular group of people and/or the lowest common denominator. The best movies are the ones that can appeal to different kinds of people. And not every movie needs to be a blockbuster; it's that kind of mentality that's ruined American movies.
Plus, Hellsing could easily be a blockbuster movie. Yes, it has vampires but it has KICKASS VAMPIRES, you know, the kind people have been clamoring for since Twilight turned vampires into wimps. |
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