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drgonzo369
Posts: 27 Location: Near Wilmington, NC |
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Me, I saw the raw VHS tape about 2 weeks after the vhs was released in japan (thanks to an import store I lived near at the time). I've actually bought the japanese soundtrack 3 times now (all legit copies at anime cons), and am still looking for the 2nd volume. Personally, the japanese music fits soooo much better with that movie, but that's just me. Like I said before, as long as the japanese track with the japanese ost on it is on there, Manga will get my $20 for sure.
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Ryusui
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Manga Entertainment is made of SUCK and PAIN.
"Castle of Cagliostro" and "Macross Plus" are the only two shining gems on a long rap sheet of crimes against the fans. News of new licenses by Manga = bad news. |
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Lyrai
Posts: 173 Location: Potatoes (Idaho) |
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Less stupid, more actual facts. In case you're dense, what are these crimes? I haven't seen Manga Entertainment do anything suckworthy recently. EDIT: I have, however, seen myself do typos that are laugh-worthy. |
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mrsatan
 Posts: 909 Location: Olympia, WA, USA |
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Their butchery of the Street Fighter II V series would be a good start for "proof". Opening credits & theme song were messed with. Actually, I think the other Manga Video releases I've seen (Guyver & Fist of the North Star) also had the OP's butchered.
The good thing isn't an Opening Theme in this movie for them to mess with. BTW, Is the Wikipedia entry true?
I can't see why a fan from the UK would prefer that to having to listen to Japanese. |
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GATSU
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Street Fighter II made up for that Van Damme movie until IIV came along...I've seen the original opening, and it doesn't save the show.
Anyway, the Mai shower scene in the Fatal Fury movie>Chun Li shower scene. Say what you will about Obari, but if he tries hard enough, he can easily compete with Satoshi Urushihara in the fan-service department. |
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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So all I've heard in these couple of topics is that we will see Chun Li's titties... what else does the uncut version offer? I have the PS2 Game and saw the movie on there, I know it's edited, and being a Street Fighter fan, I actually thought it was the best Street Fighter Anime out there. It stays closer to the actual story and doesn't screw up the character models as Street Fighter II V does.
Question: In the opening fight scene of Ryu and Sagat, I could swear that Ryu makes the scar on Sagat with a Shoryuken (Dragon Punch), yet my friend claims it was when Ryu launched the Hadouken... I began doubting my memory and I just have to ask if anyone has the answer. |
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sionEmber
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It was the Shoryuken. The scar on Sagat's chest is a line from the right side of his abdomen to his left shoulder. If it were a Hadouken, it would've been a big circle. (The kind of knowledge that gets all the ladies...-_- )
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Arakis
 Subscriber Posts: 33 Location: Amish Country, USA |
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Ryu does throw a Hadouken at the end of the Sagat fight. That might be what confused your friend.
I was fortunate enough to score a fansub of the movie about a year after it was released in Japan. I still enjoy it, certainly more than the V series. While I haven't seen the English release, I've heard enough about it to steer clear. The Japanese soundtrack is quite good, and it's hard to imagine that any of the changes that were made were improvements. As for the Chun Li scene, it hardly adds to the plot but as eye candy goes it's quite nice. |
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mrsatan
Posts: 909 Location: Olympia, WA, USA |
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SF2V was great. (As long as you skip over the "clip show" parts.) Yes, it strayed from the game somewhat, but it was way better than the forgettable Alpha/Zero OVAs.
And there were at least two OPs for Street Fighter II V. |
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ponlork
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a lot of people say that the biggest complaint with the “Street Fighter II: the animated movie” dub was that they edited the shower scene. But for me the biggest gripe was that they discard the original jpop soundtrack and replaced it with a more heavy metal grunge sound. Sure editing the brief nudity was disappointing, and there were some edits for blood along with a bunch of meaningless edits such as removing Gouki/Akuma, or shortening scenes to cut to the action etc etc but I feel that changing the soundtrack was the most drastic because it really altered the mood and killed some pivotal moments in the film.
I have nothing against Grunge, heavy metal or whatever but for me it really isn’t a issue about musical taste or preference it’s just that Jpop and Grunge are two totally different genres. When you completely discard a soundtrack and re-compose a brand new one it could really alter the intended vibe of the show. A lot of people overlook the music and just think that the plot is everything and if it doesn’t affect the storyline then who cares? but I feel that there are other aspects to film-making that are equally important. other elements such as with the Characters, Music, style, or animation can also win the audience over. I don’t like placing any on a level of importance but they all weave together and make the magic happen Just try to watch the final sequence with Ryu and Ken VS Vega/M.Bision. Compare the Japanese version with the English version and it’s like two totally different films. The Japanese version had all these tracks that was orchestrated beautifully and really set the mood, even had a theme song accompanying the scene titled "Itoshisa to setsunasa to kokoro tsuyosa" playing it in the background. You switch over to the English version and they completely removed all the music with air and it just doesn’t have the same effect man. It’s like trying to watch an intense dramatic scene but replace the music with some wonka chonka circus music, it just won’t have the same feel BTW, Sony Music Japan supplied the soundtrack for the Japanese version of SF2 and Sony Music USA supplied the music for the American version which is why you notice a lot of Sony artists such as Korn, Alice in chains, and Silverchair on the soundtrack. I don’t know what part Manga Entertainment played in the production process but I believe they did have the license for it as their flaming logo was in the beginning of the film. It was probably a lot of angry SF fans who persuaded them to re-release an un-altered Japanese version. Keep in mind that SF2 came out around 1994, a time when Americanizing was more common and a lot of North American companies didn’t realize the appeal of a unamericanized Japanese release. So that’s why I believe it took so long for Manga to finally release an unaltered version, because the anime culture is more mainstream today and people are more open to hearing Japanese music and lyrics in anime now instead of changing it or translating it like they did in the past The Street Fighter II Victory series is also one of my favorites. I remember bombarding Manga with a lot of emails back then because they didn’t include the original Japanese OP/ED songs. They just had to change the “Kaze Fuiteru” OP by ASKA, that song was haunting and one of my favorites too. They didn’t even include the eye-catches I mean come on something so small as this they couldn’t of at least include it as a bonus or something but nah instead they supply some weak techno remix crap composed by Mike Egan with some dude yelling “Street Fighter!”. I was already pissed at them for messing up the SF2 soundtrack, but the Japanese version had 4 OP/ED’s; “Kaze Fuiteru”, “Cry”, "Ima, ashita no tame ni" and "Lonely Baby". Also if you count the “Just Believe” track which was played during scene with Chun Li against Vega/M.Bison, that song was also removed in the English version. and I'm not buying the excuse that they couldn't obtain the license for the songs neither because in the VHS subtitled releases they included the original OP/ED songs in Japanese. I also didn’t like how manga tried to make a connection between Street Fighter II movie, SF2V and SF alpha advertising them as sequels and changing some of the dialogue in an attempt to try and tie the series together. SF2/V/Alpha all takes place in separate universes and the storyline doesn’t fall in the same canon |
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CCSYueh
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Sez you. Take it you aren't a GitS:SAC fan. I didn't have any problem with Karas watching it 2 nights ago, either, other than I don't see all the fuss over using "name" actors like Matthew Lillard--I sure recognized the usual Bang Zoom crew & didn't mind it since they're my fav set of usual players. I've been hoping someone would pick up the ball ADV dropped when they went with Loki over Tactics(of course. Their translation of the manga can't even decide if Soichiro Hoshi's character is a dude or a chick. And ADV has given us sooo much yaoi.) I've already pre-ordered Vol 1. Yeah! |
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chaosbladeuk
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I like GITS-Sac alot but IMO I count that more Bandai than Manga (shrugs). Tactics anime had a really weak plot and weak characters, with the case of 'too many fillers and no drive'. I liked the manga and the artwork. The only decent title I say (apart from GITSSac) that I liked from Manga was the Read or Die OVA. Comparison to other anime licensor, Manga Entertainment does fall short on alot of decent titles
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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Doesn't Manga Ent. also have Ninja Scroll, Ghost in the Shell (First Movie) Evangelion Movies, and X the movie. But they are way short of being the best. I actually didn't really like R.O.D.
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CCSYueh
Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Manga isn't a big player. They seem content (prefer maybe) one-shots like movies & I regularly curse their lack of attention to detail (Japanese cast? Americans CARE about the Japanese cast? Will we ever get the Japanese track on Devilman? Of course not. Americans don't care about the Japanese cast, right?) But they have brought us some good stuff.
I prefer Tactics to Det. Loki Ragnarok (yeah, seen both). To me Ragnarok is more inane & annoying (these are Norse gods, right?) as far as the plot goes, though they did stack the cast more. We have a hot guy but we have to keep him in a cute little boy form. At least in Tactics we get the hot guy & the little boy & the androgynous comedy relief & the females aren't so annoying. (Gee, should I go back to Asgard, or stay with the "Mystery!" freak? I'm staying with the mystery freak.) Mayura is about as annoying as inner Sakura & I was hoping someone would give her a lobotomy the first ep she showed up in. |
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