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kawaiibunny3
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like....."Harbor Light Story- from Fashion Lala" perhaps? *sparkles* (please?) seriously though, I love Anime Sols alot and I'm so happy for its successes. (I brought my Creamy Mami DVD to one of my movie nights with my friends-it was a hit!) I admit that I did originally watch Creamy Mami fansubbed about 6 years ago, but it opened me up to pretty much to all the other classic magical girl shows too. But I'm generally the type who doesn't like to watch/read something in full if I'm already planning to get the physical copy soon so I wont feel bored towards it? (ya know that "but I just watched this..." feeling?) So I blindly pledged towards Dear Brother in that case. anyway, If stream pledges are a hit, is there a chance to use the model to restore shows that didn't make it, like Pastel Yumi? |
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agila61
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I hope so. I had no real interest in owning Tobikage, but I'd definitely pledge to sub and stream the rest of the series. Like the DVD pledge gets additional DVD's created that can be sold in regular channels, I'd hope that if we pledged to sub and stream a series, it would be possible to look into licensing it for streaming. And I'd like to see the contract clearance costs for streaming to more countries than North America available as stretch goals. |
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ZorinBlitz
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Just use kickstarter and be amazed, your website is fail.
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agila61
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Gotta give a timeline, or the prediction doesn't count. For instance, everyone who predicted it would fail in under a year were wrong, but at least they made an actual prediction that could be tested. |
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F-Man
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Yeah, saying the site will fail is pointless at this stage. It's already been a success. Two full series funded and one series in process of full funding is a success. And things are only going to get better as the userbase grows. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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This is simply not fair. Anime like most other cultural products is mostly shit/mediocre and every now and then a diamond pops up. Saying that people don't want or aren't interested in watching old shows like Hurricane Polymar, or Tekkaman etc... because they're sheeple and prefer chasing the more modern versions is preposterous. By the way have YOU watched Hurricane Polymar an anime form 1974 (the original series not the remake 1990s OVA which was great) ? Hint : it's a funny series for a 12 year old but as something you have to watch in this era forget about it. It's as mediocre as they come. Animes from the seventies, or eighties that are important and that have stood the test of time (hence are worth watching) you can count them on the fingers of the two hands. And that's it. Everything else is easily forgettable (and so worth buying/watching only if you have the "gotta have them all" type mentality). So it's no wonder Anime Sols has difficulty selling these kinds of anime. Unless you get something culturally and historically important like Astroboy, The Rose of Versailles, Creamy Mami, Aim for the ace, Dear Brother or Conan the future boy you just ain't gonna find the modern audience for it. It's a fact. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I would say the more important anime from the 80s that haven't been grabbed yet aren't part of AnimeSols' deal with any studios, like all of the Sunrise mecha yet to be licensed that fans have been now enjoyable for a while thanks to fansubs (Galient, Dragonar). I disagree that the number presented, 10, is fair, there's far more important series out there that are worth watching and can be more digestible by being rescanned in 1080p, but just may not be profitable outside of Japan. I still say Sols should look more into OVAs that Japan might be willing to give you. They're short, they've higher budgets, and they're usually more interesting than dozens of episodes all at once; not every single good OVA has been licensed yet.
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GATSU
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Cptn: Polymar's great, except for the last episode, which ends with a whimper. But it did badly, because the fans lied about supporting it. I wish it did better, but American anime fans are too stuck up to appreciate camp and self-deprecating humor.
walw: I seriously wish they'd put out the Rumic World OAVs on DVD, since that hasn't even happened in Japan. |
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ZorinBlitz
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Their site has already failed pretty bad. They struggle to pass every single goal they managed to get. Few donate and the people that do have to spend a ton of money themselves for each set to reach the goal. Meanwhile everything anime on kickstarter has been a huge success meeting their goals very fast in a matter of days. Their website is gonna get crap pledges forever, just use kickstarter because no one knows animesols exists. If you call animesols a success clearly you didn't pay attention to the pledges they were getting. So their problem is no one knows they exist and barley anyone pledges. Kickstarter is huge, I guess I'm stupid for saying they need to use it. Animesols is doing so well like you guys say. Their average donation was $120 like he said in the podcast, so you guys can keep spending $120 for each set to meet their goal. Enjoy your $400 Creamy Mami dvds.
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Kikaioh
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I'll throw in my voice to say I was also one of the customers that supported Creamy Mami and Dear Brother as blind buys, simply because I had an interest in older anime series, and wanted to finally watch two of the ones I had found out about over the years (it just seems more like a correlation to conclude that they sold because of fansubs, without actually polling the people who bought the series). Anyways, there are lots of other Anime Sols series I really wanted to contribute to (Tobikage, Yatterman, Pastel Yumi and Polymar in particular), but when you wind up spending close to $300 to own just one series, wholly uncertain along the way if it will succeed or not (and bumping up your pledges for single sets just to ensure you can complete the series) it's monumentally difficult to justify supporting anything else along the way.
Personally, I think besides the difficult support model Anime Sols has, it seems like the bigger problem is more about awareness and building reputation (which is helped out at least by the successes so far this year). I think part of it is the website design --- although practical and layed out well enough, it doesn't seem to have the look and feel that inspires confidence as a successful and established operation, which actually made me doubtful at first about its legitimacy until I looked more into it. Maybe throw in a galaxy background, more pictures of anime characters dotted throughout the layout (specifically visually integrated with the site I mean, sort of like how TRSI does it), a more prominently linked "About Us" page (I didn't even realize there was one already until I looked through the footer links just now), maybe more flashy text blurbs about being partnered with the original studios --- you know, something to give a stronger identity/personality to the site, that people can immediately latch onto and feel some confidence/own some identity in. Also, I don't mind being 'spammed' with emails, actually I personally felt as though I haven't been emailed enough to keep aware about what's going on with the site, esp. since I'm not as keen on visiting the site to stream series as I am in buying them. I often don't realize a funding drive is ending until I get a short email about it towards the end, and I doubt the regular user is going to bookmark the deadlines for all those series on their personal calendars. In comparison, for Kickstarter projects I get tons of emails all the time about what's going on, I think for just the Anime News Nina Kickstarter there have been about 30 update emails so far, and I enjoy every one of them, as I do for almost every other crowd-funding project I've supported. It's just very hard to feel emotionally attached or invested into Anime Sols' crowdfunding drives because it just seems like any other online purchase --- giving some personality and depth to the crowdfunding experience could help a lot. Maybe add some blogging software to the site, like Wordpress perhaps, and integrate the news posts/stories with Facebook, that could help in building up a personality/identity for the site, growing user awareness, keeping supporters engaged and maintaining interest in the Anime Sols site itself (I didn't even realize there was a FB page for Anime Sols until I looked just now, a link for that should probably be prominently featured on the site too). And one last thing, I don't know if it's because of the Japanese partners or just a general lack of staffing, but in my experience for crowdfunding projects there's usually a huge emphasis placed on the importance of the supporters, and with Anime Sols it doesn't really feel like there's as much appreciation expressed about the supporters as maybe there ought to be, I dunno', somehow I feel a lot more like I'm treated as a customer than an integral part of the project. |
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penguintruth
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I am fond of the Dezaki Black Jack OVAs and would definitely be willing to buy those. Especially if it means they might get that movie at some point.
Any chance of getting Legend of the Galactic Heroes, as long as we have pie in the sky dreams? |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Sure, 500$ for 20 episodes and no guarantee for completion. 
I think you'd find better odds simply by betting on who's going to win the football world cup this year. |
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penguintruth
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For 500 dollars, Reinhard better make me an Admiral.
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GATSU
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Zorin:
True, but then those anime don't have the same region restrictions as the ones on Sols.
Well, first off, these are purchases, not donations. And they've only been around for a year, so it's not fair to expect them to score right off the bat. Kikaioh:
If you really want the show, you'll do whatever you can for it. So far, there are three shows which fit that bill for fans. Hopefully, Sols will get more soon.
Unless you deal with those hapless people at The Crater, of course.
They give you thank you letters if you order certain tiers. What else do you want? penguin:
If Tokuma was practical, they'd at least stream the damn series here on Hulu already. |
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Galap
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Legend of the Galactic Heroes wins the gold medal for being the anime that is in the most need of a dub
And it's probably also on the list of the anime that are the least likely to get one. One can always hope, though. Maybe the reboot... |
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