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zztop
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That one goes back to the source novel's illustrations. I think the artist was trying to acheive the exotic-fantasy-without-any-real-world-influence look for the character designs. 
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Fierywind12
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I'd just like to point out that Nashetanya calling Adlet "stupid" was almost certainly in reference to him not figuring out who she is, but she also seemed touched by his message to "princess" and genuinely interested in him, so I don't think she made a huge leap from that to the next scene.
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vashfanatic
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I'm an episode behind because I don't yet have a CR account, but so far, I feel like Adlet and Nashetanya's relationship is one of the more natural ones I've seen in anime in years. No tsundere dynamic, no boobs falls - they just like each other, and act on it accordingly. Which doesn't mean that one or both of them might not be hiding something from the other (spoiler[it would be an extra stab in the gut if she's the traitor]), but to me, they much more resemble two real people at the start of a dating relationship than most anime couples. |
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Metal Fennrir
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I really like the fact that they're sticking to the light novels 100% (well, except on the prologue part of each novel, but that honestly doesn't matter). The characters are pretty much spot-on, and the pace is slow enough to show every single detail about the story. Of course the story's not gonna get finished by 1 cour (or 2), if we're barely in chapter 2 (out of 5) of the first novel, and we've barely met... around 1/3 of the cast, and 1/2 of the protagonists. I'll be glad just finishing the second novel in 12 episodes, and if we do we're gonna get a new opening in about... 3 to 4 episodes
As to who I suspected (at this point in time in the novels)... Goldof. I thought it was extremely suspicious that he, a renowned knight, left for a month and didn't manage to find the Hero Killer nor report back to the Kingdom. Besides, in that month that he left, there were no news of possible heroes dying, so that was even more suspicious. Next week I'll change my mind and say another name, and the week after that I'll also change my mind... this is what I like about this story, to this day I'm only sure of 2, 3 heroes and the rest are possible fakes |
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Nomdrac8
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The book of Bantorra, much like Rokka has elements of very unique and original world building and characters (None of that typical string of Anime Protag, Tsundere, Yamato Nadeshiko, etc character tropes you get in most anime). The author has a penchant for creating interesting plot lines that kind of keep you guessing until the end. |
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bassgs435
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Really? Thanks. Looks like I've gotta watch that |
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AnimeAddict2014
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the main guy's abilities..
reminded me of Usopp... heroes-- seem like a troubled bunch with flawed powers.. |
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
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The premise says that one of the seven heroes is a traitor. If this is accurate, then I already have a theory of who it is. I'm thinking it's spoiler[_____________Nashetania______________] and I have 2 things pointing to it.
1. spoiler[We were told that during the civil war, the king ordered her to be executed, but we for some reason never got a reason as to why. Was she planning something back then?] 2. spoiler[It's been stated by Fremy that fiends only kill humans. Yet, somehow, at the end of episode two, Nashetania's horse suddenly ends up dead. How did that happen? If Fremy's right, fiends couldn't have killed it. And since Nashetania was the only human there...] I have other evidence, but they're really shaky, and not worth explaining. |
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Hameyadea
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From the story told to Adlet Mayer by Nashetania Loei Piena Augustra, assuming that one isn't counting her as an unreliable narrator, it can be inferred that the King tried to spin the civil war situation by focusing the rebels' attention of his daughter in order to save his own skin. In other words, he was willing to make her the scapegoat responsible for the civil war, and threw her under the bus. Since she isn't persecuted anymore, it can be assumed that the King's ploy had failed, and the people's anger subsided after he was killed.
Unlike the Spear of the Beast from the show Ushio to Tora, which can only damage & affect Beasts (read: evil, supernatural beings), Rokka no Yūsha's Fiends target humans, but can, and do, interact with the surrounding world. From the 3 episodes aired thus far, it would seem that the Fiends' behaviour is quite destructive & simple - they'll go after humans, through whatever that is in their path. Nashetania's horse could've been caught in the debris hurled by the Fiend's attacks, or was caught in the crossfire between Nashetania and the Fiend, and assuming that Nashetania is a novice without real battle experience, that option seems plausible. Either way, both your points and my counter-points are circumstantial, so it won't surprise me if by the end, either stance was to be proven as the correct one. |
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Plasmaeclipse
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Hm interesting observations on Bunny-hime. Most of my initial theories about her being the traitor hinged on the fact that she has red eyes in a world where the primary villain is a demon king. I know they got the whole bunny aesthetic going on but that is way too suspicious. Of course these observations about her rather manipulative behavior do lend some more evidence against her. She also seemed pretty quick on the draw when attacking Flamie (Fremy?). Of course that was on Goldof's indictment of her. EDIT: To add to this I would like to point out Bunny-Hime's rather inconsistent combat performance as well. When they first encountered the fiends Bunny-Hime seemed rather intimidated by combat going as far as to suggest abandoning a potentially helpless victim (sure it was Flamie but she didn't know that). Then curiously when Adlet rode off she managed to fend off the second wave of fiends all on her own. Then when Goldov appeared she was suddenly rather cocky and once again incapable of handling the threat alone. And then when attacking Flamie she was suddenly really aggressive and in control of combat. Seems like so far she only excels in true combat (not the duels from the first ep.) when there's no one around or when it would seem the least suspicious for her to do so. Current ranking of the suspicion list: Bunny-Hime (seriously the eyes, also Gabbo's observations have swayed my opinions of her slightly) Goldof (the only thing saving him thus far is his complete lack of any personality) Flamie (Fremy?) (She seems pretty determined to kill the demon king, plus if she really were some sort of traitor there is nothing stopping her from just flat out killing Adlet especially with no witnesses and she is no way tried to prevent the magic salt barrier from functioning suggests she is innocent) Adlet (too obvious, plus similar reasons as Flamie, if he really wanted them dead he could have easily picked them off one by one or just let them all fight it out and go ahead to stalk the other braves) |
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chex mix
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Either way, she clearly either sucks at fighting, wants the men around her to think she sucks at fighting so as to keep them from leaving her due to a sense of obligation to help her, or both.
My intuition says the second is most likely to be true, based on her demonstrated lack of clear morality thus far - the soldiers escorting her when she broke Adlet out of his cell clearly saw her take him, yet the rumor is that he kidnapped her? What happened to those soldiers? And why didn't she dispel this rumor as soon as Brave Boring told her about it? Plus, she attacks her own party, but is less than useful with the fiends, took food from passing farmers as she wished even after Adlet told her to knock it off, and didn't even pretend to care that he might be in danger from the Brave-Killer when he split off from the party, whereas if she hadn't just gained a new protector I bet she'd have felt quite differently about it. Also, is this fortress whatever place sketch or something? Why did the first part of the group decide "F it, let's just go on ahead?" |
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Hameyadea
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I don't know. Fremy Speeddraw (the Rokka no Yūsha wiki lists her with an R, so I'll go with that) is an emo character. So much so that it actually feels like she is a false flag. But what if that her trait so we, the viewers, will lower our guard against her? 
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Gabbomatic
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Just getting this out of the way early, but can people be careful to spoiler tag discussions of things that happen past wherever the show is at? I read these comments, and I’m making an effort to keep myself unspoiled to properly write up the mystery angle.
Thanks! |
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Key
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Oh, there's a lot about the series' content that's "sketchy" so far, and that may, in fact, be part of the point. This is already starting to feel like a series which is going to have a few genuine clues so thoroughly mixed in with the red herrings that it will be hard to tell which is which until the truth finally comes out.
As for a potential Book of Bantorra comparison, on the plus side that one had an interesting world concept, a very broad and distinctive cast, and a very involved story which featured multiple intersecting plot lines. On the negative side, though, really more was going on than could be comfortably covered even in two cours. Aside from the Central American trappings, this one has a more conventional fantasy feel so far. As to a Spice and Wolf comparison, while I don't feel that the conversations and character interactions are on that level so far (but then, you'd be hard-pressed to find another anime series with character chemistry as strong as Lawrence and Holo), I will agree that some of that flavor is evident and helps carry and relatively slow first three episodes. EDIT: And yes, the insensitivity to using spoiler tags seems to be a widespread problem this season. Do be clear that talking untagged about things that happen later in the novels is not acceptable. OTOH, comparing the content of the anime episodes to their equivalent chapters in the novels is acceptable. |
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MiloTheFirst
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I am loving this so far. my favorite anime this season.
i really dont feel that bothered by the CG Monsters, they actually blend in fairly well in my opinion. we have seen cases in other series in which CG monsters look like lubed plastic toys. in this show at least the shading and lighting is good enough for them to not look out of place, eventhought they honestly stand out. I dont think being a small company or having a low budget justifies poor drawing, they are not going to apologize and charge less for the BDs because of it, but as i said i have no problem with it to begin with. in fact i am confident the monster will blend in even better on the home video release, it has happened before, i remember when i checked a BD rip of Black bullet, the gastrea (that show versions of fiends) had been worked further upon and looked less lubed. if anything the ocasional CG backgrounds shown in closed in takes when adlet and nachetania where riding their horses on episode 2 looked more ugly, but those also get upgraded on the BD release also, i am liking the aztec elements of the settings but i wanted to point out how this series has some influence from other cultures as well. forn instance the architecture still has some chinese vibes on it, so do the red strings on nachetania's outfit. they are riding horses, there where not horses in latin america before columbus. so the mangos, there where no mangos on america before colonization, however, there were plenty on soth-eastern asia their original location |
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