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EP. REVIEW: Goblin Slayer [2018-10-14]

The gob champ actually would have raped Priestess if not for the fact that GS attacked him from behind when he did. Remember that he had Priestess in his hand for a few minutes. If he wanted to kill her then he would have done so in the first bite and he's certainly strong enough to do so. It doesnt matter to these guys whether their prey is alive and kicking or slowly dying. If the girl dies before reproducing theyll just eat her and hunt for more.

Zof wrote:

There are a lot of things that don't add up. It feels like he was set up from the start. Like, the Sword Maiden has some deal and they were never supposed to succeed. Just give the appearance that she's doing something. I could be way wrong. Also, he very well could be dead. It's time for that 7th episode show changer. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the remaining episodes are prequel ones that show his origin, life as a boy, etc, then he still gets resurrected in the end.

Its like I told that other guy. The deal with Sword Maiden will be explained at the end of this arc as long as White Fox does it properly. And also spoiler[this arc is far from over].

Do champions no longer reproduce? It just seemed odd that every other goblin just can't wait to start raping female adventurers being so focused on raping that they will let a dwarf smash their heads in one by one, but the goblin champion immediately tried to inflict a quite potentially fatal wound. I was thinking perhaps it was related to intelligence, but even the ogre (who seemed to have more intelligence than the gob champion) intended to spare the girls so the goblins could rape them.

GhostD wrote:

The gob champ actually would have raped Priestess if not for the fact that GS attacked him from behind when he did. Remember that he had Priestess in his hand for a few minutes. If he wanted to kill her then he would have done so in the first bite and he's certainly strong enough to do so. It doesnt matter to these guys whether their prey is alive and kicking or slowly dying. If the girl dies before reproducing theyll just eat her and hunt for more.

Huh? No, he wanted to eat her and savor her suffering. Unless the explicit rape motive for the champion was from the LN, I haven't read that.

It wasnt explicitly stated that rape was the main motive but its not hard to guess really. What is stated is that they torture and rape the girls as much as possible and then eat them when they die. They usually keep girls alive for that purpose but future LN volumes have stated other reasons.

this is the controversial anime of the season, after all.

The novels are extremely clear about how goblins mentally operate. They will kidnap women for breeding, but it's very rare for an adventurer to end up being kept for that reason. The reason is because goblins are instinctively vengeful and while they don't actually care about sacrificing other goblins to survive, there is this strange switch in their brain that compels them to torture and kill anyone who harmed another goblin from their nest in a manner as violent as possible.

This is consistent with the Fighter from episode 1, who is neither raped nor survives the chapter in the novel, the party of female adventurers from the forest fortress, and the elven scout from the ogre's nest.

While I'm not particularly bothered by the content being shown, I don't think I would appreciate detailed exposition about the mechanics of "when to rape, when to murder, when to eat." I'm okay with "they're bad news!"

It looked like both girls got raped in episode 1 to me though? The only one who wasn't was the guy. And was that elf they found not an adventurer?

You're saying the murder and rape of the adventurers is actually for a different reason than the rape of the kidnapped girls who are the only ones the goblins usually keep around for reproduction?

That would certainly explain why the goblin champion wasn't especially concerned about raping the priest. It seems like the anime should have explained that a bit more.

The canary itself turns out to be a waste though. It alerts the team to the presence of poison gas just as some obviously dangerous gas is clearly being pumped into the room. It's mainly a prop to demonstrate Goblin Slayer's preparedness.

GhostD wrote:

It wasnt explicitly stated that rape was the main motive but its not hard to guess really. What is stated is that they torture and rape the girls as much as possible and then eat them when they die. They usually keep girls alive for that purpose but future LN volumes have stated other reasons.

The novels are extremely clear about how goblins mentally operate. They will kidnap women for breeding, but it's very rare for an adventurer to end up being kept for that reason. The reason is because goblins are instinctively vengeful and while they don't actually care about sacrificing other goblins to survive, there is this strange switch in their brain that compels them to torture and kill anyone who harmed another goblin from their nest in a manner as violent as possible.

This is consistent with the Fighter from episode 1, who is neither raped nor survives the chapter in the novel, the party of female adventurers from the forest fortress, and the elven scout from the ogre's nest.

Nobody knows if this is how goblins evolved to distinguish between an easy slave and onee who might cause them trouble in the future, but the novels make it very clear that goblins always kill adventurers who proved dangerous to their nest and they prefer to do to as slowly and painfully as possible.

I was mostly cutting in because of GhostD's insinuation that rape was totally going to happen. I'm sort of completely and utterly sick of how people automatically expect sexual assault to happen to every single woman who gets hurt in this show because of the crass first episode.

First of all, yes they would kill anyone who seemed to be a threat and they are certainly very vengeful. But as for keeping adventurer women for breeding or as 'toys' is not as "very" rare as you say. I said that they USUALLY keep girls alive. The only reason they didn't to the female party was because of how pissed they were at the women for killing so many of them but the novels stated that they kept the leader alive as a sex slave for a while before finally killing her. If she had somehow lived long enough theres little doubt that she would have given birth to more goblins.

Second, Fighter did get raped. Hell it was her rape that triggered the whole rage about the rape but she survived in the end. The events of the first ep is actually faithful to the novels and it was stated and shown that she was being carted to a temple along with other survivors to be treated but she was too traumatized by the tragedy and retired.

Third, that actually is the common belief of what was about to go down. It was clear as day that the smaller goblins tried to rape High Elf Archer and she's more of a threat than Priestess. No the novels didn't state that that was going to happen to Priestess but why else would the champion keep her alive instead of killing her outright when she was completely under his power?

I may just be insinuating but Im basing it on the goblins' history, their standard behavior and what was stated in the novels plus some reading between the lines. If my insinuations make you sick then too bad. Its clear youre quite sensitive to the topic.

Here is the actual page that describes what happened to adventurers in the forest fortress, complete with... actually, total non-existence of what you're claiming those descriptions contain.


Once again, I'm going to simply provide the full text from the original novel that covers the Fighter's fight with the goblins as it plays.

Page #1, Page #2, Page #3.

There is also a brief mention of Priestess spotting "Fighter's body" on page 46,and the sight of it is so horrible that half a page is dedicated to Priestess vomiting in horror. It's made just about as clear as possible that she didn't survive the chapter. When the end of the chapter talks about how the lone survivor in these incidents usually retires due to their trauma, it actually highlights the Priestess in order to explain how she's different from most beginners.


Reading between the lines involves building on insinuations the author inserted into the novel, not completely replacing them with your preferred reading. Just because you decided that Goblin Slayer is some kind of grotesque rape fetish extravaganza, doesn't actually mean it is so--and yes, I can keep on pulling up specific pages to showcase that no, what you claim happens in the novels is actually only very vaguely insinuated at most, and is actually outright non-existent most of the time.

I cant give links to those exact pages but Im certain you have the same copy I do. With regards to Fighter, here are the lines from page 44.

"During their captivity, the girls had been forced to serve as the goblins' playthings. In despair, they take shelter at the Temple. The lone survivor slips away from the world and never leaves home again".

Do you really need to have Fighter mentioned directly just to prove she was included in that? If the lone survivor referred to Priestess then why didn't she never leave her home again?

Yes the female party was annihilated but you didn't post the page where the tragedy started. Again Ill just quote one paragraph that should explain it which can be found in page 76.

"The exposed bodies, clothes brutally torn away, were each different, but all showed the effects of long training. Their skin was sunbaked, with scars that spoke of old wounds, and each time they were played with, hardened muscles were visible through a layer of supple fat."

Do you have to see the exact and specific words to know what was going on? This is what is meant by reading between the lines which, by definition, means to find meanings that are intended but that are not directly expressed in something said or written.

I did not say or decide that GS was some kind of rape fetish extravaganza and in case it might enter your mind, I do not enjoy seeing those women treated the way they were. Dont you put words in my mouth.