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INTEREST: Tokyo Court Rejects Agency's Damage Claim Against Former Idol for Dating

From a normal persons standpoint it's seems like a good decision that such a practice was ruled unjust, but from a business/legal standpoint these girls are in the wrong.

Dfens wrote:

From a normal persons standpoint it's seems like a good decision that such a practice was ruled unjust, but from a business/legal standpoint these girls are in the wrong.

Well, obviously she wasn't wrong from a legal standpoint since the court ruled in her favor.

From a normal persons standpoint it's seems like a good decision that such a practice was ruled unjust, but from a business/legal standpoint these girls are in the wrong.

I find it a bit odd people are angry at the fans of the idols for things the company does/did.

When Nintendo killed the fanmade Chrono Trigger remake, we don't blame that on the fans no liking unofficial product, do we?

I myself am an idol fan and I had one go through that thing where she felt she had to apologize for wearing a ring (to make guys not hit on her when she's out!). I can see why these companies can be upset, but they're more to blame. The Talent industry in Japan is brutal.

In an anime sense, the Developers for Kancolle have no problem with foreigners playing their game. The Publisher denies access to anywhere outside Japan. Take my money! Let me play!

Publishers and Talent agencies in Japan are the real problem. Don't be hatin' the fans.

Not when they are a minor, they can't control their hormones, the agency is in the wrong for enforcing these rules. It's not murder or rape where they know it is wrong and are justifiably wrong in society.

No, this is not right!! When you sign a contract, it is binding! She broke the law!

Excellent news. I hope this becomes a precedent. The culture of chastity in the idol industry needs to end.

Ulinox wrote:

No, this is not right!! When you sign a contract, it is binding! She broke the law!

I'm not sure about Japanese law, but I'm pretty confident that breaking a contract isn't against the law. Unless the act in breaking the contract goes against the law itself.

kazenoyume wrote:

Excellent news. I hope this becomes a precedent. The culture of chastity in the idol industry needs to end.

This will no doubt change the idol industry in Japan, but I don't think it will change as much as you think it would.

While companies can no longer force an idol to remain "pure", they can still have clauses in their contracts that say they can be fired for not meeting the company's ethical standards. You actually have such things in the West. Like actors being fired from projects if they spoil a movie, or forcing actors to reimburse costs if they walked off a project.

In short, they can date whom they want, in public. But if they do something that's questionable, don't be surprised if they still get fired.

Is this inconsistency (in ruling) a good or a bad symptom about Japanese law-making? When two judges from the same court come to two opposite conclusions I interpret that as a big flaw in the system. Or is this a common occurrence?

Males are held to the same standards. One famous case was when Mamoru Miyano revealed he knocked up a girl suddenly and was getting married. Fujoshi had an uproar and even wished his unborn child would be miscarried. Otaku or fujoshi make no difference.

-Stuart Smith