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NEWS: Sentai Filmworks Adds Super Sonico Anime


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Rahxephon91



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:44 am Reply with quote
jet_ wrote:
You're not talking about the show. You're just making stuff up about what the show really is,
I don't believe I made anything up. My problems where that I expected something entirely else based on what they've done with the character. I don't believe I made up my own expectations.

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and is using that to back up your argument that people "should just watch porn"



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The Super Sonico anime is a comedy slice of life about music and gravure jobs (she's an idol).
I don't think I said it wasn't. That description sounds like the mundane anime where we watch her do things. I believe that's what I called it and that's what it is. The show isn't very funny. The music is hardly in depth. For a gravure model we don't see much. Thats kind of the problem when the the entire show is about this girl who's redeeming thing is her sex appeal.

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It's not a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
Well it is a boring anime, because it's not about fanservice. Thats kind of the problem....

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It wasn't advertised as a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
That seems to be the only thing going on with the character. Most artwork and merchandise about her is all about sex appeal. So I'm sorry I came into the show expecting it to play up her sex appeal and then was disappointed that I got something else. She's not interesting, even her face isn't. The only thing cool to me is the characters thickness. Why would I want to watch a show with really nothing else going for it and then can't even provide the one thing I'm tuning into it for. For all you people complaining, you sure have yet to say why the show is good. I'm going to assume you don't even know.


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and is using that to back up your argument that people "should just watch porn"


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I understand if you don't like the content because you're uninterested in the character, but saying "just watch porn" is a very lazy argument.
That line is really bothering you people isn't it? There was no argument. It wasn't hinjing on that. The point was this show presents a girl you want to see naked, but dosen't do much with her. At that point why watch her do stuff and not give up the goods when I can just get straight to what I want without the hassle. The show is'nt about fanservice, you're right. So why the hell am I watching it? You're right. I'm not and if I should watch it for other things, you peeps sure aren't making a case. Too occupied about someones post about how they'd rather watch sex hen a show about a sex object girl without the sex.
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jet_



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:18 am Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
My problems where that I expected something entirely else based on what they've done with the character. I don't believe I made up my own expectations.

That's your own fault, not the show being bad.
Again, the anime wasn't advertised as a boing boing boing fanservice!!! anime
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Thats kind of the problem when the the entire show is about this girl who's redeeming thing is her sex appeal.

But the anime was never advertised as such.
If you had read the plot synopsis before watching the show you'd know
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Well it is a boring anime, because it's not about fanservice. Thats kind of the problem....

Wait, so it's boring just because it's not about Super Sonico boucning around with her tits fully exposed for 25 minutes?
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That seems to be the only thing going on with the character.

Not really, no.
The anime adds quite a lot of depth to the character.
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Most artwork and merchandise about her is all about sex appeal.

That's advertisement for the game + figures, not the anime.
The advertisement for the anime didn't have that much sex appeal.
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For all you people complaining, you sure have yet to say why the show is good. I'm going to assume you don't even know.

Super Sonico's interactions with the characters around her (her grandma, her band members, her manager).

After reading the rest of the post, I understand that you only watched the first episode and is now butthurt because you didn't get to see any nudity.
That's like only watching the first episode of TTGL and get disappointed that there are no super robots in the anime because the only thing you read about the show was the words "super" and "robot".
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Rahxephon91



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:47 am Reply with quote
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That's your own fault, not the show being bad.
Again, the anime wasn't advertised as a boing boing boing fanservice!!! anime

For expecting fanservice? Probably.

The show being bad? No, the show is just bad. I'm not sure what was funny to you, but I found nothing funny. Super Sonico also just seems like a cute girl doing cute things. Like thats not interesting to me. If you like it cool. I'm just saying there could have been some ridiculous fanservice which would have been somewhat fun. And since all searches involving this character are nothing but that, I excepted that.

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But the anime was never advertised as such.
If you had read the plot synopsis before watching the show you'd know
If you read the plot synopsis, it sounds like nothing. I don't think if I read the plot synopsis of say Ikki Tousen does it say anything about beings bouncing and panty shots. It says something about using beads in highschool to fight.

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Wait, so it's boring just because it's not about Super Sonico boucning around with her tits fully exposed for 25 minutes?
Gee I feel like I've been saying this forever. The only thing good about this show is her sex appeal.
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Not really, no.
The anime adds quite a lot of depth to the character.
There are no words. What depth? Please tell me. Because she just seems like any other anime cute girl.

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After reading the rest of the post, I understand that you only watched the first episode and is now butthurt because you didn't get to see any nudity.
Yes because I wasted my time with a crappyshow where thier could have been at least something else. I'm hardly the only person saying this either. I'm not butthurt, more shocked that anyone is taking issue with what has been the common talk about this show.

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That's like only watching the first episode of TTGL and get disappointed that there are no super robots in the anime because the only thing you read about the show was the words "super" and "robot".
This is a terrible analogy.

Because even in the first episode there are hints at something far greater. While the Gurren hasn't become full yet, you still have an awesome mech battle in the 1st episode. Plus the beginnings of a cool plot and some engaging characters. if all you knew was that it had super robots and watched GL, you shouldn't be disappointed, because you see the beginnings of the mechs powers.

If all you knew was Super Sonico, you'd look up a google image search (like I did) and see that pretty much everything is with her boobs and ass being emphasized. You'd see that she's basically a merchandising item so if you watch her show expecting story or characters that would be insane, but it's probably going to be pretty fanservicty because everything else relating to the character is nothing but fanservice.

You'd watch the show and be pretty bored.

or not if you like watching cookie cuter anime chicks do stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:35 am Reply with quote
jet_ wrote:
The Super Sonico anime is a comedy slice of life about music and gravure jobs (she's an idol).
It's not a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.


Ok, I don't know anything about the show but I thought being a gravure idol was about the tits and fanservice with no actual nudity. Are you saying this show is like a PG movie about the porn industry?

I can understand the complaint then.
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jet_



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:34 am Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
the show is just bad

As someone who has watched three episodes of the show: it's not a bad show.
Animegomaniac wrote:
I thought being a gravure idol was about the tits and fanservice with no actual nudity. Are you saying this show is like a PG movie about the porn industry?

There is fanservice, but it's not over the top.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:14 am Reply with quote
can we find some sort of middle ground here and just concede that Rahx finds the show boring, and everyone else that likes it doesn't and just move on?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:26 am Reply with quote
jeez. Chaos is happening here. Shocked And I'm sorry Getchman. I'll follow your wish after this Very Happy

Raxephon91 wrote:
For expecting fanservice? Probably.

The show being bad? No, the show is just bad. I'm not sure what was funny to you, but I found nothing funny. Super Sonico also just seems like a cute girl doing cute things. Like thats not interesting to me. If you like it cool. I'm just saying there could have been some ridiculous fanservice which would have been somewhat fun. And since all searches involving this character are nothing but that, I excepted that.


From analyzing your posts. I conclude that the Moe Slice of Life genre is just not for you. Your basically arguing about the problems the majority of those shows have. Even K-On, Lucky Star, Non Non Biyori, Tamako Market an even Hidamari Sketch have them. You can freely argue how you don't like it. But your conclusion to why people like it seems offensive even to me since your solution to watching a slice of life show like Super Sonico expecting some high rate fan service should be too close the stream window and watch porn instead. Don't act all innocent that your last sentence which was double spaced from your paragraph which can be freely interpreted by people given your odd use of it after your criticism which I can agree with somewhat until that single sentence is all alone waiting to be respond with dislike.

Yet you question why it bothers people.

The Moe Slice of Life genre tends to lighten sexual comedy cause fan service of the physical body is not why were here to watch cute girls do cute things. They may talk about adult things of the human body, but that is different from physically interacting with them. A-channel is the closest that I could find so far to fit your wants with the main silent moe character always uppercutting her friend just for the purpose of lifting a boob or two.

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If you read the plot synopsis, it sounds like nothing. I don't think if I read the plot synopsis of say Ikki Tousen does it say anything about beings bouncing and panty shots. It says something about using beads in highschool to fight.


I was with you thinking jet_ made a bad analogy with TTGL. But you made a bad one yourself. Plot synopsis is PLOT. Not a genre or character development chart.


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That seems to be the only thing going on with the character. Most artwork and merchandise about her is all about sex appeal. So I'm sorry I came into the show expecting it to play up her sex appeal and then was disappointed that I got something else. She's not interesting, even her face isn't. The only thing cool to me is the characters thickness. Why would I want to watch a show with really nothing else going for it and then can't even provide the one thing I'm tuning into it for. For all you people complaining, you sure have yet to say why the show is good. I'm going to assume you don't even know.


You can't suspect the contents of a show blindly just by looking at character designs in other forms of entertainment or commercial advertisement. You don't think or assume that there is some light-hearted comedy in the evangelion movies/show when you see their shaving commercials/pics. There can be but that is not only subjective but in the small minority. You look at not only the plot synopsis, but trailers or production information.

Another example could be my impression of Attack on Titan. Looked through synopsis, trailers, production talk and information. Then from there I formed my mind on it with expectations. Attack on Titan was enjoyable crap, but lost expectation on the possibilities of being high grade FMAB material with Berserk writing completely from what the creators were trying to show in my eyes. I criticize the show but I don't piss on the fans trying to point out my problems or hiccups then divert the problem by saying that fan should get down on his computer and type a load of what you grade to be, "substance"? You know, like you just did with Yuno07?

Overall I could agree with your points if you just left THAT sentence out and actually gave a passable argument with Yuno after his/her comment that made sense to your attitude.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:44 am Reply with quote
getchman wrote:
can we find some sort of middle ground here and just concede that Rahx finds the show boring, and everyone else that likes it doesn't and just move on?


Hey, man, you take your REASONABLE ATTITUDE, you take your COMMON SENSE and LOGIC and just ram 'em, mmmkay? THIS IS THE INTRAWEBS AND WE DON'T DO REASONABLE, COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC!!!

Wink

P.S. you smell like poo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:51 am Reply with quote
@Blood-

Flawless!

Best comment ever!

Now imagine Eric Cartman saying that whole comment Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:24 pm Reply with quote
Seems a strange title to license. Is Super Sonico even that popular outside of Japan?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:59 pm Reply with quote
jet_ wrote:
You're not talking about the show. You're just making stuff up about what the show really is, and is using that to back up your argument that people "should just watch porn" instead of Super Sonico.
The Super Sonico anime is a comedy slice of life about music and gravure jobs (she's an idol).
It's not a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
It wasn't advertised as a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
I understand if you don't like the content because you're uninterested in the character, but saying "just watch porn" is a very lazy argument.


Pretty much. Rahxephon91 is just parroting the same cynical, AMB BS that people love to rattle off on this site. It's petty, ridiculous, and is done just to get a rise out of people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:36 pm Reply with quote
Yuno07 wrote:
jet_ wrote:
You're not talking about the show. You're just making stuff up about what the show really is, and is using that to back up your argument that people "should just watch porn" instead of Super Sonico.
The Super Sonico anime is a comedy slice of life about music and gravure jobs (she's an idol).
It's not a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
It wasn't advertised as a "boing anime" about tits and fanservice.
I understand if you don't like the content because you're uninterested in the character, but saying "just watch porn" is a very lazy argument.


Pretty much. Rahxephon91 is just parroting the same cynical, AMB BS that people love to rattle off on this site. It's petty, ridiculous, and is done just to get a rise out of people.
Im happy you let other people argue for you, but since I don't speak animu you'll have to explain(if you can do it) what "cynical AMB" is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:23 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
Seems a strange title to license. Is Super Sonico even that popular outside of Japan?


Well, there was the Udon artbooks... outside of that a Super Sonico themed shows seems pretty niche to get picked up.

EDIT: It's almost like it's living within a void for it's main hook: "do you like the Mascot for VN company Nitroplus that has only released a handful of titles in North America, most of which have been 18+ titles? Then you'll like this anime all about her!"

That reminds me, does anyone have a link to the Sonico Shock Infinity trailer - THAT is what I wish the anime were like! Maybe in a sequel series (similar to Muv Luv Alternative)?

"Sonico Shock Infinity, a cross between Nitroplus mascot Super Sonico and BioShock Infinity, “coming 2014?”"

EDIT2: Nevermind, found it --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSijX7e9vg


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:28 pm Reply with quote
It's always a bit of a mug's game trying to figure out why Company X decided to license Title Y. Presumably, Sentai has sales figures from shows comparable to Super Sonico and thus believes they can make a few shekels from a release. It seems like it would be a fairly easy show to market:

YOU LIKE BIG TITS??? GUESS WHAT, SUPER SONICO'S GOT BIG TITS!!!

...

I really should be working on Madison Avenue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:28 pm Reply with quote
This might be kind of unrelated. but when it comes to these boring slice of life shows, couldn't we at least have more unique and interesting slice of life shows like Kamichu where there's at least some sort of unique hook?

The problem I had with Super Sonico is that the direction just feels super calculating and Super Sonico is literally the amalgamation of every single slice of life character. Those are my opinions of the first episode, but man, did it drain my enthusiasm for the show when I was expecting they'd do at least something different or unique with the character. I'm half expecting a mid-show twist or something, but I doubt it's going to happen at this point.
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