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Back on topic, I think another reason for the double-standard is indeed related to religion, but peripherally. So-called Cultural Christians/Muslims accept that certain things like sexual depictions are "bad" because they are "supposed to be". Also, I think everyone can understand why depictions of rape and lust tend to legitimize those mindsets and lead to desensitization so aren't "good" practically.

In some circumstances, violence is necessary for defense and to prevent worse violence (crime, etc.) so people give more latitude to those depictions. They may themselves act violently in private, or wish to do so, which is automatically OK. Why some fail to see the connection between depictions of violence and legitimizing it and desensitizing to it and in some cases claiming there is zero connection is beyond me.

I've played intensely violent games and afterwards found I was wanting to slam my car into offending other cars and pedestrians so there most clearly is a connection. When people realize there are public shootings (not OK) because entertainment has conditioned people to accept these actions as legitimate and have desensitized them to violence and decide to not accept that, the double standard will disappear.

The same can be said for more violent Anime: They're overdoing the violence so much it gets ridicolous. There's no reason at all to actually show the gore in great detail, they're just doing it to appeal to "edgy" teenagers or horror-junkies. I tend to prefer the "censored" TV-version of Anime, because they show you just enough, even if they cover the whole scene with shadows *cough*TokyoGhoul*cough*.

Just because it doesn't appeal to your tastes doesn't mean it's horrible. If you actually enjoy the genre to a somewhat degree, you'll get a better understanding of what makes a fanservice-heavy show good, and it's usually not the fanservice itself, but the comedy and romantic development between the main character and his/her partner. If you dislike the comedy, fine, but there's obviously a big enough market for it for Japan to release dozens of them every season, as they're huge fans of slapstick humor.

There's obvious cut-and-paste characters in other genres as well, especially shounen, but people tend to ignore that just because it's not ecchi.

I think it's a mistake to "humanize" anime characters, as they are not conscious, do not have feelings, etc.

Easy answer to this is the anglosphere and to a greater extend the abrahamosphear are deeply sexphobic. You may also note that countries that could and are accused of debauchery tend to have lower crime rates.

Back on topic, I think another reason for the double-standard is indeed related to religion, but peripherally. So-called Cultural Christians/Muslims accept that certain things like sexual depictions are "bad" because they are "supposed to be". Also, I think everyone can understand why depictions of rape and lust tend to legitimize those mindsets and lead to desensitization so aren't "good" practically.

The only people who would find something like that titilating are those who have never interacted with a woman in their life.

What it seems to boil down to is the fact that even in the year 2018 people are still uncomfortable talking about sex simple as that. I believe it is that very attitude which held back many LGBT+ rights as many if not all of the arguments against seemed to have centred around what they got up to in the bedroom. (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5STn_9aWo )

This also lead to most western countries the UK in particular having such high rates of Teenage pregnancy. This almost total fear of discussing sex related topics made it easier for the likes of Jimmy savile, Rolf Harris, Larry Nassar to shame their victims into silence. So the less we demonise sex and sexuality the better.

Hiroki not Takuya wrote:

Back on topic, I think another reason for the double-standard is indeed related to religion, but peripherally. So-called Cultural Christians/Muslims accept that certain things like sexual depictions are "bad" because they are "supposed to be". Also, I think everyone can understand why depictions of rape and lust tend to legitimize those mindsets and lead to desensitization so aren't "good" practically. In some circumstances, violence is necessary for defense and to prevent worse violence (crime, etc.) so people give more latitude to those depictions. They may themselves act violently in private, or wish to do so, which is automatically OK. Why some fail to see the connection between depictions of violence and legitimizing it and desensitizing to it and in some cases claiming there is zero connection is beyond me. I've played intensely violent games and afterwards found I was wanting to slam my car into offending other cars and pedestrians so there most clearly is a connection. When people realize there are public shootings (not OK) because entertainment has conditioned people to accept these actions as legitimate and have desensitized them to violence and decide to not accept that, the double standard will disappear.

wait just a minute are you serious right now?
Are you really dragging up the oldest argument that Violent video games make people violent what that has been proven time and a again not to be the case?

So you're saying from Columbine to Parkland was caused by Violent media and not because the school system has become more prison like in the last 30 to 40 years? and that Parents only see school more of a cheaper form of child care?

I blame the Puritans. I think they really set the tone for prudishness in America. There must be places in the world where people are more horrified by violence and gore than nipples, right?

Early this year I was watching a review of Devilman Crybaby, and a comment thread was about how happy someone was that it didn't have any unnecessary fanservice and how great it was that there was so much violence, and the comments generally agreed with them. Until someone posted something along the lines of

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Wait you don't mind a show that has tons of brutal violence, as long as the person it is happening to is adequately dressed, you Anime fans are prundish

Article said "That's one reason. The other reason for the difference is that although bloody violence is pretty prevalent in anime, violence for violence's sake is very seldom an anime's entire raison d'être. There really aren't that many shows that maintain a constant display of blood and gruesome violence as the show's sole selling point. They do exist - they're just relatively few in number, especially compared to the number of anime where the chief preoccupation is anime boobs."
What are some anime shows that use violence for the sake of violence? What are maybe some signs to look for where an anime show's main selling point is gruesome violence.

If you want to wank at anime tiddies, literally no one is stopping you. You want to project yourself into those dudes who fall onto girls and plant their face into their jellified bosoms upon which they lose a gallon of their blood after which they are punched in a face as the scream of "kyaaa" echoes throughout the room, it is your full right. You may even be proud of that fact, and I'd be weirded out by that and question your life's choices, but, hey, none of my business. But you need to understand that it isn't the most equitable thing in the world, and that many would have their stomach churn at the notion and be somewhat turned off, let alone want to see the same thing happen for 3986th time.

Kadmos1 wrote:

Article said "That's one reason. The other reason for the difference is that although bloody violence is pretty prevalent in anime, violence for violence's sake is very seldom an anime's entire raison d'être. There really aren't that many shows that maintain a constant display of blood and gruesome violence as the show's sole selling point. They do exist - they're just relatively few in number, especially compared to the number of anime where the chief preoccupation is anime boobs." What are some anime shows that use violence for the sake of violence? What are maybe some signs to look for where an anime show's main selling point is gruesome violence.

Off the top of my head: Drifters. And Hellsing. And Akame ga Kill. And Tokyo Ghoul. And Deadman Wonderland. And dozens of other seinen ultraviolent gorier-on-the-blu ray fests say hi.