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ANNCast - Royal Podcast Force: The Carl of Hornneamise

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not to mention the disconnect in hearing a 50-year-old's smokey voice coming out of a 20-30 young-looking Miyazaki character.

There are plenty of dudes who sound older than they should.

All I wanted to ask is Wings of Honneamise and Royal Space Force are the same animated movie under different titles.

You're missing the point. Jiro's not supposed to be an emotionally expressive character. He's reserved by nature.

There are plenty of dudes who sound older than they should. Not everyone can come off like a teenager like Leo.

There's no nuance to his delivery as Jiro.

I don't know who Leo is

History is written by the victors, heros and villians are chosen by the winners.

That's because he's a man of simple tastes stuck in a complicated situation.

Dicaprio.

This just goes to further prove something I've known for years; western fans place Japanese voice acting on a pedestal above criticism.

Instead of above criticism, rather, as our acquainted J-buds always remind us, it's to be expected that non-Japanese-language users aren't capable of critiquing Japanese acting as in-depth as their own locale acting, particularly when the acting isn't distinctly clear but rather when the line between passable and poor is a subtle difference.

Like say, the meticulous stuffs English users talk about regarding English acting, the Japanese talk about regarding seiyuu acting - which obviously our people don't do that scrupulously since ours don't see what the Japanese acutely see.

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That's because he's a man of simple tastes stuck in a complicated situation.

Bad acting is not a character trait.

Anno was not chosen by Miyazaki for his acting skills as a voice actor, but because he has a unique voice which Miyazaki and Suzuki consider to be "honest". Therefore, you don't need to be angry at the choice which Miyazaki & Suzuki made. Both definitely knew what they were doing, even though it sounds miscast to many westen anime fans which are used to hear professional voice actors or actors in anime

Bad acting is not a character trait. This just goes to further prove something I've known for years; western fans place Japanese voice acting on a pedestal above criticism.

Okay, I know the celebrity but don't really understand why he's being referenced.

Yet no effort is made whatsoever to inform people as to why the Japanese version is preferable.

This podcast was a good example, talking about how Gordan-Levitt is miscast as Jiro, despite no one having actually heard the dub, but Anno was somehow the right choice for the character "once you get used to it",

He sounds miscast and badly acted to every Japanese person I've talked to who has also seen the film.

it's to be expected that non-Japanese-language users aren't capable of critiquing Japanese acting as in-depth as their own locale acting,

Swissman wrote:

Anno was not chosen by Miyazaki for his acting skills as a voice actor, but because he has a unique voice which Miyazaki and Suzuki consider to be "honest". Therefore, you don't need to be angry at the choice which Miyazaki & Suzuki made. Both definitely knew what they were doing, even though it sounds miscast to many westen anime fans which are used to hear professional voice actors or actors in anime

They made the wrong choice. He sounds miscast and badly acted to every Japanese person I've talked to who has also seen the film.

Because they generally are better at understanding the character than their American equivalents who are just there to deliver a passable voice-over.