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EP. REVIEW: Dragon Ball Super

violent meathead with the worst temper in the universe.

That's the sort of decision no sane person who isn't rich would make.

This premise seems a bit out there. spoiler[I understand that Goku fully accepts that someone wants to take his life and all, but for a person that has already died and come back, he's really on edge. I get that he doesn't want to die, but there is also a way to come back from death, which kind of defeats the purpose of being really worried about being killed. Why should anyone care about him dying if all they need to do is wish him back to life with the dragonballs?

Also, at this point, he has tied Krillin for most times died (if we exempt GT). Will he surpass Krillin?]

71:

[spoiler]Eh. It's impossible to take death too seriously in Dragon Ball in general but this episode suffers from some shitty context. For starters, there's the fact that the Dragon Balls are still active since Shenron hasn't granted a final wish. This means it'll only take maybe a couple of hours for them to be rounded up after fetching the radar from Bulma. So if he is dead, who gives? He's basically just taking a nap. Then there's the fact is that Toei has already started hyping the next major arc with promotional material in which Goku is completely fine. Because of that, this arc likely won't amount to much asides from some set-up regarding whoever put a Hit out on Goku.

Lastly, they really power-creeped the fudge out of Hit's time-stopping didn't they? He had thousands of years of experience heading into the tournament against Universe 7 and could only freeze time for a fraction of a second. Now he can hold entire conversations with his targets before killing them without a millisecond passing.[spoiler]

gedata wrote:

71: [spoiler]Eh. It's impossible to take death too seriously in Dragon Ball in general but this episode suffers from some shitty context. For starters, there's the fact that the Dragon Balls are still active since Shenron hasn't granted a final wish. This means it'll only take maybe a couple of hours for them to be rounded up after fetching the radar from Bulma. So if he is dead, who gives? He's basically just taking a nap. Then there's the fact is that Toei has already started hyping the next major arc with promotional material in which Goku is completely fine. Because of that, this arc likely won't amount to much asides from some set-up regarding whoever put a Hit out on Goku. Lastly, they really power-creeped the fudge out of Hit's time-stopping didn't they? He had thousands of years of experience heading into the tournament against Universe 7 and could only freeze time for a fraction of a second. Now he can hold entire conversations with his targets before killing them without a millisecond passing.[spoiler]

A couple errors you made about the dragon balls. First off, the balls will still go inert if a wish is granted. It's just for one wish, they'll be turned to stone for several months. Second, even if they were active, the earth's dragon balls can't revive a person more than once even after Dende's upgrade. It was brought up at the end of the Cell saga with Dende's solution being to get the Namekian dragon to revive Goku.

And concerning Hit, it was brought up that Hit found no reason to improve himself in all those years before the Universe 6 vs 7 tournament since no one was a challenge for him. Goku was able to give Hit motivation to improve himself.

They could have run with it and had a time where Goku was dead, but nope, he sprung right back to life.

Without the Dragon Balls, even. That's right, people, characters can now spring back to life in this series without even using the Dragon Balls! Wow.

Vegeta's characterization also felt a bit off. Vegeta is known to be a character that will push himself to his very limits. In this episode he wanted to cheat himself out of training by bribing Whis with food. I know it's filler, but come on. Vegeta straight up would never do that.

Not even a mention of how bad the animation was?