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Patience, Gina, patience. All will be revealed in due course.

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Probably.

Well, it's not a matter of patience, actually. I have to ask these questions about series I'm watching because so much stuff is already answered and I've either forgotten or missed it altogether. So your reply tells me that's not the case here, I think. I have no trouble waiting for answers, as long as they're not already out there flying right over my head.

Episode 4

I am not reading too much into anything here. Her best friend is just joking about making virtual porn of them together, like gal pals do, and then looked longingly at her as she left, whispering that at least one of them can get the relationship they want. Nothing gay related at all.

In general it was a pretty interesting episode about things like sexuality. Those deep fake AI that could look uncannily like real people are much closer to reality that many of us would probably be comfortable. Actually last few months I watching a lot of those AI text to speech videos that talk exactly like a particular character from an over 20 year old video game that would have had limited samples. I did find it particularly uncanny in the episode when the AI was pretty much the one making requests, and talking about why he could gain if he became a humanoid, which is pretty creepy.

DuskyPedator, as you know, nothing makes me happier than to be able to rib you about your propensity to slap on the yuri goggles at the slightest pretext, but this time I have to admit... I had the same thought you did. zomg, am I becoming hentai too??? Wink

And yes, "create your own porn using digital images" is not far away at all. Oh, the things Margot Robbie is gonna be doing to me... heh-heh-heh.

Episode 5

Dang, the end of the episode actually hit me rather strongly. I am not sure how well accepted of a theory (high functioning) autism spectrum disorder is in Japan, but a kit if that kid's traits sounded a lot like autism or a similar disorder like ADHD. Having been there and seen it, I know how enticing the idea of a fix for problems could be, and additionally how terrifying the idea of a world with a ready made way to "cure" that "problem" would be. It is a major opinion of us on the spectrum that we do not agree with the goals of groups like Autism Speaks, that see disorder as some sort disease that needs to be eradicated, and many of us would see the possibility of that as killing a part of ourselves.

Issues like that kid's are real, but there should always be better ways to manage those issues, rather than something that looks like some sort of lobotomy. Granted there are medications that some people really need to be able to function in a healthy way, and those should not be ignored for their own safety and health, but there is a line. Similarly my mind goes to all sorts of other things that in the past were identified as personality disorders, such as anything queer, and the idea of forcing those people to fit into the narrow ideas of normal is a travesty.

Episode 7

Wow, they just keep diving into complex topics. First was the sick old man, who went from an uplifting tale of a survivor and his family helping him, to returning him apparently his old violent and abusive ways where he attacked his own son for making him a spectacle. And the second story was a humanoid guy getting burned out from taking abuse from angry customers, somehow gets listened to and then seems to have it solved by even more advanced AI.

Clearly no one was happy after seeing the sort of person the old guy turned back into after being healed, being unusable for stories of mental health care, or the advantages of procedures in fixing humanoids. But I would have said it was probably the right thing to do. His own granddaughter is likely going to be more traumatized, his son abused, and tainting how his family will see him, but all the same respecting his own autonomy was probably the most right thing. In that way, they probably should have never shown him off in a way that would have made him uncomfortable if he was healthy mind, even if all that stuff makes everyone less happy than if he was just an almost vegetable.

And with the exporting customer care to some robots that look almost indistinguishable from humans, not even having the pupils that the humanoids have, it does make me feel a bit uncomfortable. Really brings to mind I have been hearing that some customer care phone AI are almost indistinguishable from humans in how they sound, getting the inflections pretty close. Also the manipulation of a good cop/bad cop program meant to control how the human thinks. In general reminding me that history of such practices, such as what type of music is used on hold music and elevators, or specifics of waiting rooms that are meant to have people lose track of time. They can be full on hacking the minds of a human being, and the manipulation can be used for much grosser reasons than calming angry customers down.

That episode left me wondering once again about the reproductive capabilities of humanoids, with another apparently mixed family and then the kicker at the end that the cs reps might not be human, but that was a secret. Certainly increased my suspicion that Sudo isn't human. If he's not, does he know that?

Episode 8

I will say that there is something a tad uncomfortable about a plot of a lesbian woman having her sexuality lobotomized. I know the story itself is not meant to be anti-gay or anything but the plot including the quoting of queer love not needed for procreation, has some unfortunate historical precedent. Kudos for an anime having queer themes in a not fetish way, but maybe a tad extra tact.

I was like; jeez, you didn't talk her, maybe apologise for not recognising her feelings, sort of forcing her into a situation of outing herself, and maybe offer her ways she can find some women that would return her feelings?

This show continues to amaze me. What an incredibly poignant and intelligent way to examine the topic of unrequited love. The show has been consistently examining the theme of, "what if the cure is worse than the disease," this time through the lens of unrequited love. I really felt for breezy. Being a lesbian obviously increases the odds that she'd fall in love with people who wouldn't feel the same way. You can totally understand why she'd at least think about a procedure that would save her from that kind of pain in the future. But then there is the old conundrum: what does "curing" that "problem" mean for who you are? I thought this whole thing was deftly handled. Ending on an ambiguous note where we don't find out what her decision is, is frustrating but also kind of masterful.

And based on the way Dr. Sudo approached baking a cake, I think Gina's theory that he might be a robot gained some credence.

I don't think he is a robot, I think just has a condition like autism spectrum, which was why he was so attached to that kid in an earlier episode. He has bad social skills, is not very expressive, and I would describe the cake bit a bit as literal minded, there are people that have these traits, and my take is some irony that these are things that might have people think he is a robot.

So basically you are calling Gina a big dummy-head, eh, DP? A little harsh I think but hey you feel what you feel. (Hee hee hee)

Episode 11

So at long last the plotline concerning Dr. Sudo's humanoid mother finally kicks into high gear... with one episode left. Pretty safe to say we won't be getting a resolution to that story unless there is more adaptation down the road. Another interesting wrinkle in the whole nature vs. nurture debate. Turns out there is a copy of Risa out there but the poor copy has had a much different upbringing than Risa's. I sure hope that this adaptation leads to the manga getting an English language release because I'm not confident I'll get to experience the rest of the story, otherwise.

I think there must be a lot of stuff in the manga, because the ED illustrates a lot of vignettes and characters that aren't in the episodes. Unless those will all show up in the finale as tales from Sudo's childhood or something.

Does his saying he found his mother's clone imply that he's already met with Michi and done the update eval, or is this a pre-payment?

I feel really bad for Fui. The episode was vague, but there looked like the implication that he was abusing her in some way, but really did not touch on in what way it was. Based on in his apparent strong affection for Risa, and her mother so adamant to have full custody, it bring to mind certain things. But again nothing was quite spelled out.

I am not entirely sure on what charges Fui was imprisoned. Was it because she killed her father, technically an illegal immigrant, or just because she happens to be an illegal clone humanoid? I would kind of hope courts could find some leniency that she was a victim of abuse, and was affected by a very emotional piece of information. She has Risa's childhood memories, so maybe that could give some citizenship. And I would say it would be really wrong to punish someone who was against their own created as a clone without either of their consent. I would hope she could be rehabilitated, and she could be a sister to Risa,

@ Gina and DP:

*slap*

*slap*

Omigod, y'all, they're not CLONES! They're neural net COPIES! In fact, Risa 2 even mentioned that her creepy "dad" found a body to download the copy of Risa into. Not sure what the deal with Sudo's mom is because it's been so long since the show dealt with her copy situation and I'm not sure what the copy's body dealio is.

Yeah, not sure what Fui's legal situation is, either. I doubt she is imprisoned for killing her dad since that appears to have happened in India. Maybe she's being held for extradition? Most likely she's being held for being an illegal visitor and also because the authorities don't let humanoid COPIES run around freely?

@ Gina (again): it's not clear whether Sudo did the eval but if finding his mother's copy is a pre-pay arrangement, then Michi is awfully trusting...

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