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Etrien
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I've always taken Gon to be pretty cocky. He also has a tendency to ignore what people tell him and do whatever the heck he feels like doing - such as with his most recent battle. But, I also only have experience with the original manga. The more I hear from the fans of the other show, though, the more it sounds like it really changed some of the characterization... Maybe I'll eventually go back and watch it out of curiosity, but I think I might have the same problem many other fans have with this adaptation: I'll already have familiarity with one version, so all the differences in the other might be unappealing.
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egoist
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So far Gon is the only difference I noticed that I'd really count. Otherwise it's pretty much HxH Kai.
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JustinGallimore
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I hope gon knows what he's getting himself into his ten vs powerful nen, won't be enough I think but knowing how gon is he will find some way to win.
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4750G
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Darn, I made the mistake of watching the original anime. Now I can't finish any episode 'coz I've seen them already. It took me a long time to realize this, but the current HxH is more focused on the story line (probably how to speed up its narration) that I've stopped laughing. The original HxH is funny. This one... not so much. Not at all, sometimes.
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Mr. Toto
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It's good that you've noticed the differences concerning Gon. His strong sense of pride is essential to his character. Without that trait, many of his future motivations make much less sense. But keep watching. If Madhouse keeps following the manga as well as they already have been, then both Killua and Kurapika's development should be fairly different from the 1999 series. Many might not know this, but the 1999 series was actually intended to conclude the series with more finality with an anime-only ending. The last two episodes initially were entirely different from the manga. Furuhashi intended for spoiler[Kurapika to engage in a climactic battle against the leader of the Phantom Troupe, both men dying in the process (in order to round out the "eye for an eye" motif in the 1999 series).] And you know how the 1999 series features a ton of little moments shipping Kurapika and Leorio? The 1999 series was supposed to end spoiler[with Kurapika dying in Leorio's arms in a tearful goodbye.] Apparently the storyboards were auctioned off a few years ago and you can find images of them online; here's an example: 
I hear that Togashi hated the idea of this ending, so he rejected it.
The Nippon Animation version largely has a different sense of humor than both the manga and Madhouse version. It's more straightlaced and punny. |
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Gon*Gon
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Yay! They finally learned Nen! Now to the spoiler[Hisoka vs. Gon battle] and get this Celestial Tower arc over with.
Wait, how is THAT "eye for an eye"? spoiler[Kurapika still lost his entire clan], and with his death spoiler[his entire race is wiped out]. |
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Mr. Toto
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Well, that requires a bit of explaining. Prepare for a lot of text. The 1999 series didn't have too many moments of filler in its latter half, but the instances it did have threw off continuity. Firstly, the "an eye for an eye" thing stems from phrase Killua states throughout the 1999 series and eventually becomes a recurring theme. I believe that it first makes its appearance between the second and third phases of the Hunter Exam. There was a filler character named Anita who stowed away on the Hunter Association's airship for the sake of revenge against Killua, whom she believed to have killed her father (it ended up being another Zoldyck). The major idea was that people get what's coming to them; people who do "bad things" to others are always punished. This filler set the precedent for the rest of the show, as director Kazuhiro Furuhashi continued to explore and connect these themes to canon moments. "An eye for an eye" became one of the series' filler catchphrases (there are plenty). And once Nen was introduced, a second portion was added to the catchphrase to make a rhyming pun: "An eye for an eye, Nen for Nen" (目には目を、念には念を Me ni wa me wo, Nen ni wa Nen wo). Now I've mentioned before that Kurapika is a different character in the 1999 series. This is because if you pay close attention, there are some key differences in the ways that Kurapika responds to one of the most major trials in his life: spoiler[the murder of Uvogin. In the Nippon Animation version, Kurapika is disgusted with himself for having killed a man. He can't stand it. He nearly retches. Throws away his bloodstained clothes. Gets physically ill from having committed such an act. But in the manga, Kurapika doesn't even flinch after killing Uvogin. In fact--his expression doesn't change a bit. It's cold and resolved at the same time. Despite being such a moralist in the beginning of the series, you start to realize that it was all talk and that Kurapika is a much darker-minded character than he originally portrayed himself to be.] spoiler[In the Hunter Exam arc, Kurapika at first is on a bit of a high horse. He finds Leorio reprehensible for his desire for money and carries himself in a pure manner. Kurapika states that his goal is to become a Blacklist Hunter in order to only capture the Phantom Troupe. But the more we learn about Kurapika, the more we begin to question it. During the First Phase, he has a conversation with Leorio in which he states that he isn't adverse to infiltrating society's underworld in order to arrest the members of the Phantom Troupe. Then in the Third Phase, Kurapika nearly kills Majitani for disguising himself as a member of the Troupe and thereafter threatens to do it. Gon is the only one to take notice of and consider Kurapika's change in demeanor. ] spoiler[This comes to a head when Kurapika first encounters a member of the Phantom Troupe. He gets irrationally angry and impulsive. All of his morals go out of the window and the only thing on his mind is blood instead of justice. Furuhashi might've believed that Kurapika was in inner turmoil over his personal morality and his sense of justice. In fact, he goes so far as to imply that Kurapika was indoctrinated by the Kurta clan. In episode 58, he nearly breaks down whilst chanting a prayer that goes as follows: "The sun upon my face, the grass beneath my feet. My skin cleansed by the water of a lake. My spirit soars among the clouds, my path illuminated by the moon and stars. I honor my ancestors for bringing me to this place and defend my brethren with my dying breath. I will step forward to humbly share in their joy and carry the burden of their sorrows. By my word and deed, their name will live on... For my Scarlet Eyes and my blood are one with theirs; I will take up the mantle, and accept any wrongdoing I commit, to preserve the Kurta people, until we are redeemed forever. On the Scarlet Eyes, I swear." Key lines include "defend my brethren with my dying breath," "carry the burden of their sorrows," and "I will take up the mantle, and accept any wrongdoing I commit, to preserve the Kurta people, until we are redeemed forever." When you think about it, Kurapika's clan was eradicated when he was only twelve. Therefore, he would have been taught this prayer in his childhood. You get the sense that Kurapika's revenge (in the 1999 series) isn't solely being driven by his own will--he's following his ancestors' will and it conflicts with his personal moral code. So his anguish over killing Uvogin is because he knows that he's done something wrong. He feels guilt for having done it. Therefore, an eye for an eye. Blood will be repaid with blood. Uvogin was killed by Kurapika for having killed his clan, so Furuhashi intended Chrollo Lucilfer and Kurapika kill each other to settle their grudges. There are scenes and motifs Furuhashi places within the Nippon Animation version foreshadowing Kurapika's intended demise. The bloody moon dripping downward, Kurapika's floating corpse in a lake of blood in episode 45, etc.] spoiler[Of course, these are all pretty much the opposite of what the creator intended. Kurapika doesn't feel guilt over his actions even though we (as viewers) believe that he should. Uvogin's murder is ugly, merciless, and brutal. Kurapika is portrayed almost as a villain in this scene in the manga. And Chrollo is the opposite because he doesn't hold grudges like that. In fact, he champions ignoring Kurapika in order to focus on the Troupe's true objective.] ---- Phew! Now, just one more thing. I'm really excited to watch the next episode for a lot of reasons. However, I first want to remind new viewers of a scene in which they may have forgotten. Episode 16 of the Madhouse version. During the Fourth Phase of the Hunter Exam, Gon acquires Hisoka's badge and is immediately defeated by Geretta after. There was an interesting filler scene in the space between Geretta's departure and Hisoka's arrival. The boy has a butterfly waft over to his closed fist, bandaged and bloodied. The butterfly floats away and soon becomes entangled within a spider's web. Helpless, it struggles until its demise. Gon watches this entire scene and winces in frustration.     
And then after Hisoka knocks the boy out, he's entirely defeated without the ability to change this incredibly frustrating situation (which leads him to cry for the very first time in the series).  
Next. The ending scene, following Gon's confrontation with Hisoka. Night. Gon lies within the hollow of a tree, awake with an expression of anger in his eyes. Again, a butterfly wafts over to Gon's closed fist. But this time, the scene zooms in even closer to the boy's expression so that the viewer is given a better look. Gon isn't just angered--he's furious. However, the viewer isn't given access to his thoughts.     
Consider these moments. |
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egoist
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Is Kurapika a girl in the manga?
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Divineking
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No. The 1999 version sure wanted to believe he was a girl though... |
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Etrien
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As does a lot of the Japanese fandom, I think... But Togashi loves playing around with gender perception, I think. HxH has a whole bunch of ambiguously gendered characters...most of whom wind up being male. (And as an aside, in the HxH world, women only seem to make up around 15% of the population. Man, that would've made high school so much worse.) |
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Hirx
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does the anime will have only 37 episodes ...because it was planned for 45+
so far the anime is great and i wish for it to continue.. |
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Divineking
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It;s been doing pretty well so far so it'll probably keep going so long as they don;t run out of source material (thankfully we have about 3 years or so before that might be a problem). Hopefully Togashi won;t take too long to get off the current hiatus. |
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ChibiKangaroo
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From what I saw of the 1999 version, Gon seemed to be pretty cocky in that as well. The whole thing started with his cocky attitude telling his aunt that he would pass the hunter exam even though he's just a kid, and then catching some huge fish that no one has ever caught before. I think the fact that Gon is cocky is just part of his nature, and I actually like it. If he were too humble he would just be kid Goku from Dragon Ball. |
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jsc315
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In the original TV series i always assumed Kurapika was a girl even though I knew he wasn't. Same goes for the this reboot as well. |
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amarielah
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So at first I was kinda iffy about this adaptation, mostly because I much preferred the pacing and animation style of the first anime. (note: I said style, not quality. This series obviously excels when it comes to the latter. I don't think I've seen a single still-frame in a fight scene yet.)
While I still think that some things from the 1999 series are stronger (in particular, the soundtrack), the overall execution of the 2011 series is really starting to grow on me. It's just more...seamless, I guess. Re: Kurapica and Leorio. Togashi is one of two shounen mangaka (that I know of) that have had canonical (male) homosexual relations and/or relationships in their manga. And he certainly didn't seem surprised when people started shipping Kurama/Hiei. They may have toned the UST between Kurapica and Leorio up in the 1999 series, but there's still plenty of it in this one. It may not be your bag of chips, but does it really surprise you that people pick up on it? |
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