Forum - View topicThe List - 7 Biggest Crybaby Heroes
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Mikeski
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...editing the smiley off of my sentence does not magically make it into a serious comment, you know.
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zeo1fan
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But that would conflict with his existentialist beliefs. By existentialist philosophy, the only thing that really matters is how Shinji feels about himself. And the specific tenet he follows encourages self-discovery through angst...of which there's plenty.  I'm not saying it's not self-destructive or that it doesn't hurt the story, but you're judging Shinji by a societal norm that objectifies men as utilities and weighs their value based on their actions rather than bestowing intrinsic value as people the way gender does for women. Take a step back and think about the philosophy. And responding to your last comment, plenty of people take up existentialism in college. 
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zeo1fan
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Well that marriage is part of why it worked. None of those elements are bad on their own, as you're well aware.  It's not hard to see why it's a masterpiece.
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designer215
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I don't post here often, but Sakura Kinomoto from CCS being on that list made me angry. Being an old fogie, Here are people I think should have been included.
Lynn Minmay - Macross. I know she's a 16 year old pop star who is in love with a pilot. Her entire world was shifted from a Chinese Restaurant to a giant transforming ship. All I wanted her to do was stop whining about not being able to see her boyfriend. Vegeta. Yes, he did not really shed tears, but he whined and whined about being the Prince of Sayians and not being able to defeat Goku. That to me is a cry baby. Miaka from Fushigi Yuugi. She cried for Takahome, she cried about Yui getting in a better school and Cried about being the Priestess of Suzaku. The only thing I remember from Fushigi Yuugi is Miaka being a cry baby magical girl prototype. She does toughen up, after Yui slaps her around. Still a cry baby none the less. |
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zeo1fan
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And having come after Cutey Honey and Sailor Moon, she doesn't even contribute that much. She seems to be one of the more thoroughly loathed anime characters I've seen.
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ohstalon06
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So after clicking through and reading this list...there are 2 separate, MAJOR bones I have to pick with this list.
First off, the inclusion of Sakura Kinomoto, I have a big problem with. I think that there's only ONE episode where ANY kind of crybaby tendencies and that's at the very beginning. The rest of the series, she comes off as apprehensive, which is much more in line with an actual 10 year old, when dealing with some more of the cards but I would hardly consider that to be a crybaby. Even then, when she DOES cry, its more in situations like in that picture used for the list or at the very end of the series. I think there are more worthy characters that could have used inclusion on this list than Sakura. Second, Shinji Ikari....I'll fully admit to being a crybaby myself when I was younger. The biggest problem with including Shinji on this list is that Shinji holds his emotions in, he's not outwardly expending his emotions into tears, which as far as I'm concerned is the textbook definition of a crybaby. So I just think that this list is a really weak one because the way the writer defines being a crybaby. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think either Shinji or Sakura belong on the list. |
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Chrno2
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Wow, I can't think of anything. Of course Shinji get's #1. That boy would curl up like a damn dog that was beaten. Oh the only one I could think of was the girl in Iczer-3. She was Nagisa's friend and for some odd reason she just became fragile. Considering how the old Nagisa was in Iczer-1 she eventually redeemed herself. She was a crybaby too. But she did have reason. But by the time Iczer-3 came around the Nagisa of that generation barely cringed from an event that would have rendered her useless. Talk about a change. But her friend was a mess.
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I didn't say anything about their relative ability, though, since...
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