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Felicity dash
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:32 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: | My goodness, suck it up DMM, they aren't ISIS, it's just a bunch of crybabies and a whining political tyrant. |
Yes because (what could`ve happened) vandalizing & acting disrepectfully is totally not being hateful, right? Especially if you wanna mock everyone who goes for actual religious reasons, and push them far away from those shrines, right? Oh and I guess murdering people for an anthropomorphize girl shrine isn`t in any shape or form wrong to you.
In all honesty what makes you think this would`ve been a great idea? Other than the fact it has girls.
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manapear
Joined: 02 May 2014
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:54 pm
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Yeah, I get cancelling it. It does sound like in bad taste; not just using Shinto itself that way, but indeed that part about some shrines being bad fortunes. Other mobile games can handle spiritual and religious matters well, so they can do better.
The designs - well, the art style - may have been cute, but heck, they could have done anything. Like make it Shinto inspired but original, or something. I also think that after Touken Ranbu, some people just want to merge anthromorphization pandering with popular/common parts of Japanese culture, but that's not always going to work. (Especially if the handling is sloppy.)
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EricJ2
Joined: 01 Feb 2014
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:10 pm
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Kadmos1 wrote: | So, was it an act of being political correct that canceled this game? |
No, it was more like people in 80's trying to find the one teen-slasher movie they could be public outraged about, so it would be an excuse to get rid of all of them...
Or back when the Religious Right tried to tell us Hollywood was "evil" by spreading fake rumors of a Biblical porn movie that never existed.
Here, we never quite get the big public outcry unless it's
A) Cute, supposedly "sexist" or "pedophilic" moe girls or anime-idols used as public mascots
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B) Some respectable aspect of mainstream Japanese society, like government agencies, industries, or cultural shrines.
And since mainstream Japan wants to get rid of anime (and NEETs with them) by persuading us that seeing cute age-ambiguous miniskirted 2D cartoon girls will "cause" public sex-crimes, the more mainstream the character, the bigger the strategic "outrage"...Especially if it's not tied to a specifically marketed show, and was simply using 2D girls to "seduce" the baser instincts of the public.
Kemono Friends might be able to sell the local zoo, but create an original moe mascot for a new governmental program or regional-pride staple--especially of a frequently fetish-sexualized profession like nurses, pearl divers or shrine-maidens--and watch the public purging of the Poison of Our Society.
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Compelled to Reply
Joined: 14 Jan 2017
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:00 pm
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manapear wrote: | Yeah, I get cancelling it. It does sound like in bad taste; not just using Shinto itself that way, but indeed that part about some shrines being bad fortunes. Other mobile games can handle spiritual and religious matters well, so they can do better.
The designs - well, the art style - may have been cute, but heck, they could have done anything. Like make it Shinto inspired but original, or something. I also think that after Touken Ranbu, some people just want to merge anthromorphization pandering with popular/common parts of Japanese culture, but that's not always going to work. (Especially if the handling is sloppy.) |
Well, DMM.com has an anthropomorphic game with Japanese castles (Shiro Project/Collection), which I assume led to the idea for shrines.
EricJ2 wrote: | And since mainstream Japan wants to get rid of anime (and NEETs with them) by persuading us that seeing cute age-ambiguous miniskirted 2D cartoon girls will "cause" public sex-crimes, the more mainstream the character, the bigger the strategic "outrage"...Especially if it's not tied to a specifically marketed show, and was simply using 2D girls to "seduce" the baser instincts of the public. |
What are you talking about? "Mainstream Japan" is indifferent to anime otaku. What you're talking about is called "moral panic."
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EricJ2
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:20 pm
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Compelled to Reply wrote: |
EricJ2 wrote: | And since mainstream Japan wants to get rid of anime (and NEETs with them) by persuading us that seeing cute age-ambiguous miniskirted 2D cartoon girls will "cause" public sex-crimes, the more mainstream the character, the bigger the strategic "outrage"...Especially if it's not tied to a specifically marketed show, and was simply using 2D girls to "seduce" the baser instincts of the public. |
What are you talking about? "Mainstream Japan" is indifferent to anime otaku. What you're talking about is called "moral panic." |
It would if it was 100% real, and not strategic.
Instead, it's a more carefully orchestrated campaign to shock everyday mainstream non-fans with the "perils" of what they want to eliminate, by demonstrating how its evil influence will infiltrate their DAILY LIFE! And soon, pedophilic influences will be on the street and our public buildings, and not just in the NEET's darkened geek-caves!...Etc., etc.
If you just complained about a late night fanservice anime, normal people would shrug they didn't watch it anyway, and the demonization campaign would be right back where it started. But show how any innocent law-abiding person might be perilized at random during their respectable work or school day, if they weren't protected...
Sort of like the way TV news in the 90's was afraid of the Internet's new competition to their industry, and Dark Web horror stories of neo-Nazis and predator chatrooms were all over the weekly features--If all they complained about was Amazon, who'd be up in arms?
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manapear
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:45 am
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Compelled to Reply wrote: |
manapear wrote: | Yeah, I get cancelling it. It does sound like in bad taste; not just using Shinto itself that way, but indeed that part about some shrines being bad fortunes. Other mobile games can handle spiritual and religious matters well, so they can do better.
The designs - well, the art style - may have been cute, but heck, they could have done anything. Like make it Shinto inspired but original, or something. I also think that after Touken Ranbu, some people just want to merge anthromorphization pandering with popular/common parts of Japanese culture, but that's not always going to work. (Especially if the handling is sloppy.) |
Well, DMM.com has an anthropomorphic game with Japanese castles (Shiro Project/Collection), which I assume led to the idea for shrines. |
That makes a lot more sense as a game, and maybe they can do something more clever with the idea of shrines. Creating their own, parallel Japanese-fantasy verse would be smart and avoid a lot of the issues.
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Wahappen
Joined: 25 Aug 2017
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:57 pm
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Well in Youtube everything gets demonitized, in Japan everything gets sexualized *insert lenny face*
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