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yuna49
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:46 pm
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I just think the proportion of crap has increased over the past decade or so. Yes, of course we still get Vinland Sagas and Frierens. All I'm arguing is that they represent a smaller proportion of the total output of anime today than in 2007. And, yes, that is a subjective opinion based on a mere eighteen years of watching seasonal anime. For instance, I have little to say about shows before 2003 or so.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:32 pm
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I think you might be right about the proportion of crap being larger than before. There are more shows being created than ever before but the number of really excellent shows each year has pretty much stayed the same, imo.
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Runnha
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:49 pm
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I would say 2006 (for Death Note) or 1999 (for One Piece).
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Jose Cruz
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:49 am
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Errinundra wrote: | If you discount 2005 and 2010, the period between 2004 and 2012 is the golden era of anime - again something I've long considered to be the case. The shit that people give the noughties isn't borne out by the data. Since 2012 the moving average has been trending down.
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I had a similar impression revisiting my favorites: this gave me the impression that anime peaked around 2010. Although, in my case, thats was also because I am a moe fan and this genre peaked in popularity around 2010.
But overall 2004-2012 makes sense as the peak of anime, since TV anime for "anime fans" began with NGE in 95/96, and following the success of NGE, the anime industry began making shows for a more mature audience and started airing them in late night, starting with Those Who Hunt Elves (1996). The number of late night shows then exploded from 1996 to 2006 (which follows the increase in average scores you posted). By 2006, late night animation production reached a peak of 200 13-episode cours (according to Japanese animation industry statistics). The 2006 peak level of late night anime production has not been greatly exceeded since but has been maintained in most years. This boom in production from the late 90s up to the late 2000s that allowed many great titles to be created and artistic boundaries to be pushed.
Still, since the anime industry has been pumping out around 150-200 cours of late night shows per year since 2006, many more great shows have been made in recent years than before the mid-2000s.
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louis6578
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:14 pm
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To judge by every anime in a single year is silly. I think we should just think about the best anime of a given year and ignore the duds. Frankly, there are more bad anime now than ever before, but also more great anime than ever before. I'd argue the percentage stayed the same but the overall quantity increased.
I think we're in something of a renaissance period right now, but if I had to choose my own personal best year for anime, it'd either be 2007 or 2011. 2019 was pretty great too, but Gurren Lagann and Code Geass, not to mention the year of Fate/Zero, Steins;Gate, Anohana, and Madoka, are pretty top tier years in my book.
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Itachi__Uchiha
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:41 am
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I think 2011 because hunter x hunter is the best anime
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Jose Cruz
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:12 pm
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yuna49 wrote: | I just think the proportion of crap has increased over the past decade or so. Yes, of course we still get Vinland Sagas and Frierens. All I'm arguing is that they represent a smaller proportion of the total output of anime today than in 2007. And, yes, that is a subjective opinion based on a mere eighteen years of watching seasonal anime. For instance, I have little to say about shows before 2003 or so. |
I have the impression that today thanks to streaming we get to check out all the crap while back in around 2007 the crap was only easily available for the Japanese. Sure one could get to the crap if they wanted, but it's not like today that I turn on Crunchyroll on my TV and it's like "look a hundred crappy shows on the menu." This year I have been much more selective on what I watch, since I watched really crappy shows last year.
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Spawn29
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:08 pm
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1998 was an amazing year with many banngers:
Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040
Cowboy Bebop
Devil Lady
Getter Robo Armgeddon
Initial D
Outlaw Star
Serial Experiments Lain
Spriggan
Trigun
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Unicorn_Blade
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:04 am
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Blood- wrote: | Hey, I love me some Moribito but I have to admit that I instinctively cringe when I see somebody say, "ah, they'll never make great shows like "x" any more. Since the dawn of anime, virtually every year has seen the creation of a handful excellent shows/movies, some of which are classics and masterpieces. And there continued to be risky shows made long after the recession, to this day. Girls Last Tour was hardly a safe bet. The problem is somebody imposes their subjective taste on the question and they only focus on the shows that did it for them. Anything outside that subjective taste can, of course, never measure up. Great anime was made, is being made, will be made in the future. And a lot of crap. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was... |
Yes, but also that depends on what a definition of a good anime is.
I must say I have not seen an anime in... 2 years or so? With the exception of trying to finish Attack on Titan. Weirdly, because the amount of content is insane. Most subscription services offer titles.
One of the reasons is that the themes I find interesting are not really a thing. While there may be some excellent titles, they are not really my vibe. And the amount of not so good shows seems to have increased and it's harder to sift through to get to the good stuff.
Is there a way btw to see anime that came out year by year? Shame it's not an option to see tha on the list of anime we have seen rather than clicking on every single title one by one.
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Blood-
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:03 am
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@ Unicorn_Blade: yes, there is a way to see anime listed by the year it was released.
Click on the Encyclopedia tab at the top of the screen. Once the selection box comes up, find Tools at the bottom right of the box, select Search by genre, theme, year and click on it.
That will bring you to a page where you have a number of filters to search titles. The second filter from the top of the screen is Production Year and it allows you to search between a range of years. So, let's say you want to find out what was released in 1993, you would just plug in 1993 in both the "between" and "and" boxes. That brings up a list of every series title (and movie and manga titles if you want those) released in 1993.
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Unicorn_Blade
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:13 pm
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Thank you, will play around with that later!
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Errinundra
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:59 pm
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I used that search to come up with the dodgy graph.
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RGaspar
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am
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Entirely subjective, but 2009-2010 was my best year in anime, at least until last year.
I only became an anime fan in 2007 (Original Evangelion, my beloved) and it took a few years to ramp up my watching. Then, in 2009 I watched so much stuff that wasn't exactly from that year but it was my first time with shows like Spice & Wolf (now we are baaack!), Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Haruhi (pretty new for its time), Lucky Star, Samurai Shamploo, etc. and it culminated with one of my all time favorites: Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood.
But the last few years have given 2009 a run for its money with stuff like Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2, Frieren, Spy X Family and even the visually stunning Demon Slayer. But it really depends on preferences and tastes. Like for instance, I haven't watched many of those 1998 classics you guys referenced in the OP but I'm still partial to the classics from my childhood (Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya, Sailor Moon, Ramna 1/2, etc). So, your mileage might vary and all that.
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Jose Cruz
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:08 pm
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According to my Anilist profile, the top 5 years by average score, only listing years that I rated more than 20 shows/movies which includes all years from 2003 to 2023, the last few years look like the real golden age of anime (unexpectedly considering my top favorites are mostly from 2002-2012 period):
2006: 75.2
2022: 74.4
2021: 74.3
2019: 73.2
2011: 71.6
I rated the last few years the highest on average, mainly because I only watch the stuff that interests me the most now, so it's a biased sample of the 30 shows I find the most interesting (stuff like Kuma Kuma Bear and The Demon Girl Next Door), while I watched nearly 60 shows from 2013, and I rated them 66.3.
Including the years before 2003, my top years of all time by average rating are:
1995
1988
2002
2006
2022
But I only rated 6 movies/shows from 1995, 14 from 1988 and 17 from 2002.
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guildmaster
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:24 pm
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I'm petty much in agreement with 2006-1012, but 2009 is when Fairy Tail came out so that particular year gets my vote.
There also some much older ones like Nior and ROD the TV, etc, but they are one offs,
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