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mayo160
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 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:16 am
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| agila61 wrote: | |
Actually, the "official torrent" is not orwellian at all. You'd get one of the global brands ~ like Coca cola ~ to sponsor the torrent, the ads are embedded with the content (animated watermarks, and shrinking the display for ad content below during OP and ED) and the sponsor does agree to pay some small fraction of a cent royalty to the rights owner per tracked torrent download. Use the same region blocking filters already in place to determine who can get access to the torrent, and throttle down the seeding to a fairly low pace to ensure that, one, only bandwidth-starved viewers will bother, two, the torrent users can't set their download to leech only and get good download rates and, three, it will impose negligible bandwidth cost on Crunchyroll.
Torrent subscribers could pay $15/yr (given the embedded advertising they'd have to pay much less, but it still would support royalty rates from torrent downloads that are high enough to entice the Japanese content owners) and the free torrent is the same time as the ad-streams are released. Obviously there will be lots of spillage, but there will be at least some revenue generated from markets where its hard to monetize under a model where the streaming site covers all bandwidth costs.
The sponsor, of course, won't mind the spillage if the advertising is embedded in a way that cannot easily stripped out.
Where it comes undone, of course, is that the Japanese content owners will insist that there be a system put in place to ensure there is no spillage, even though Japanese piracy will obviously prefer material pirated from broadcast, internet and cable in Japan to this torrent download material with embedded advertising by the global brand. |
amazing, you actually gave a germinated, viable and, importantly, implementable business model... which is more than all of the industry can say. 
{sigh} would somebody please hire this guy already? 
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agila61
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:35 pm
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| mayo160 wrote: |
| agila61 wrote: | | ... Where it comes undone, of course, is that the Japanese content owners will insist that there be a system put in place to ensure there is no spillage, even though Japanese piracy will obviously prefer material pirated from broadcast, internet and cable in Japan to this torrent download material with embedded advertising by the global brand. |
... you actually gave a germinated, viable and, importantly, implementable business model... which is more than all of the industry can say. |
Implementable after the point where the Japanese content creators give the go-ahead. Which is a way to say not implementable right now ~ maybe after they have spun their wheels on the ice of trying to force online monetization to imitate physical media for another year or two, someone will be willing to give it a whirl.
| Mangafan1 wrote: | | ... Sometimes things get censored or completely rewritten in the american version and you have to get the scanlation/sub to see it the way it's meant to. |
And sometimes the scanlation/sub is still a tenuous translation. On the translation itself, the only way to know for sure is to be able to speak Japanese and see the unedited Japanese DVD cut. Scanlations/subs sometimes juice up the translation on purpose, and sometime they just don't quite get the meaning and are taking a stab at what they think it means.
| Quote: | | I have an anime network subscription and I think they censored some of the kill scenes.
I'm sorry if I you think we should support censored works or outright Macekres. |
The streaming sites normally get a censored broadcast cut, since the Japanese don't want the DVD cut available online before the DVD is even released ~ a broadcast contract can fund editing and censoring for US release, but streaming revenues aren't strong enough ~ they master the material that is sent from Japan and any censorship is in the original material.
Of course, if there was no rampant piracy, they could give out the unedited cut, since Japan is typically region blocked for the overseas streaming sites, but if ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
One of the next steps up for streaming sites is adding a stream of the unedited cut once the Japanese volume is released, or else once the unedited cut goes on premium cable in Japan, since once the unedited Japanese cut gains a commercial release, it will be ripped and put online in Japan and then downloaded to replace the edited cut originally used for the fansub/streamrip.
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mayo160
Joined: 20 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:40 am
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 and here we were thinking that the japanese are all 'innovative', sometimes wackily so; they should have figured out something fierce through sheer determination alone, if nothing else, before this whole internet-download thingy even broke, is what the stereotype would tell us.
isn't it annoying when a bunch of doddering old, blinkered luddites keep on staying in charge?
although, manga and subsequently anime did spring from american seeds post-ww2......
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