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NEWS: Toonami Revival to Have 'New Original Anime Programming'

TitanXL wrote:

The only way Pocket Monsters would air on Adult Swim is if they air the uncut version. Which is never happening.

More like it would never be on Adult Swim period in any form or fashion. What is so "adult" about Pocket Monsters? Let's not pretend it's more mature than it is.

More like it would never be on Adult Swim period in any form or fashion. What is so "adult" about Pocket Monsters? Let's not pretend it's more mature than it is.

Sunday Silence wrote:

PipingHotTea wrote: ......or even bring in Black Lagoon. Problem: Too much F***ing swearing. And thats not even scraping the surface. The Vampire Twins story arc would be canned. Can't have spoiler[pedophilia necrophiliac crossdressing Romanian orphans who die in gruesome ways (a kneecap shot followed by a handjob shot with a slow bleed and an outright BOOM! headshot)] on basic cable now. Most of the arcs might undergo some edits, some very badly.

This is where Canada laughs at US censors. Black Lagoon aired uncut on a basic digital cable channel, often times without a viewers discretion warning too.

RIP Anime Current on G4

kakoishii wrote:

More like it would never be on Adult Swim period in any form or fashion. What is so "adult" about Pocket Monsters? Let's not pretend it's more mature than it is.

I'd say it's easily more mature than shows about a talking disembodied ass and anything Tim and Eric have made/starred in.

But I'm not talking about maturity, I'm talking about content. Which is the only reason anime even airs on Adult Swim because they show mostly kids anime like Bleach and FMA.

Adult Swim is the only place you CAN air Japanese children shows uncut, whether or not they're actually for adults is irrelevant.

kakoishii wrote:

More like it would never be on Adult Swim period in any form or fashion. What is so "adult" about Pocket Monsters? Let's not pretend it's more mature than it is.

I'd say it's easily more mature than shows about a talking disembodied ass and anything Tim and Eric have made/starred in.

But I'm not talking about maturity, I'm talking about content. Which is the only reason anime even airs on Adult Swim because they show mostly kids anime like Bleach and FMA.

Adult Swim is the only place you CAN air Japanese children shows uncut, whether or not they're actually for adults is irrelevant.

Moribito was a kids show dude. It was also the lowest rated show ASA ever aired.

Beatdigga wrote:

Moribito was a kids show dude. It was also the lowest rated show ASA ever aired.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It felt pretty damn sophisticated to me. Shame about the ratings, it's a personal favorite of mine

Shenl742 wrote:

Beatdigga wrote: Moribito was a kids show dude. It was also the lowest rated show ASA ever aired. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It felt pretty damn sophisticated to me. Shame about the ratings, it's a personal favorite of mine

Based on a series of kids novels. Out of print now due to low sales.

TitanXL wrote:

The only way Pocket Monsters would air on Adult Swim is if they air the uncut version. Which is never happening.

I dunno about you, but I don't want to see James in a Bikini.

Moribito was a kids show dude. It was also the lowest rated show ASA ever aired.

So, just thinking aloud…

Turner, and Cartoon Network in particular, used to be really strong in developing a brand identity. In the 90's, the Toonami and Cartoon Cartoon blocks were readily understandable: the former was action cartoons (some anime, some US stuff), and the latter was family-friendly comedy cartoons (Dexter's Laboratory, Cow and Chicken, etc.).

In building the brands, they used not just compatible programming -- if you like Batman the Animated Series, you're probably at least willing to give The Big O a try -- but also things like bumps, promotional videos (remember those 2-minute Gundam Wing montages / music videos?), interstitials (the "Tom" segments), etc.

Thing is, the entire [adult swim] network is already like that. They have their idiom (snarky title card monologues), a programming strategy (dependable Fox animation reruns leading into cheaply-made absurdist/stoner original comedies), cross promos in a variety of styles (self-parody, mocking the show itself, etc.).

And the [adult swim] brand, as it's developed over the years, doesn't really suit the anime/action stuff that they've been running on Saturday nights (a move largely necessitated by this programming not holding up on other nights of the week). A wacky bit for Squidbillies leading into "serious" programming like Ghost in the Shell just doesn't make sense.

So, yeah, by wrapping this action stuff in the Toonami branding, they sort of solve an obvious problem with their action/anime programming. The shows in this block will be better able to support one another by being bathed in compatible ads, cross promos, bumps, etc., rather than going with the snarky title cards that have done a bang-up job of convincing anime viewers that [as] hates them.

But it sort of begs the question… why be in the anime/action business at all? [as] title cards were belly-aching about the lousy anime ratings back when they were airing the first Fullmetal Alchemist, and things surely haven't gotten better since then, given the lack of cross-over hits, or even particularly good shows at all. Why are they even trying, when they could just as easily run another night of Family Guy and Aqua Teen Hunger Force?

Maybe they believe the programming they have, and the stuff they could acquire or develop, will finally work once it's handled better, and that's what this new Toonami is. That's the optimistic case.

The pessimistic case is that new Toonami is a straight-up nostalgia play, and that instead of picking up promising new anime licenses, we'll tune in next week and those "To Be Announced" slots will be re-licensed runs of Outlaw Star, Dragon Ball Z, and other 90's chestunts to warm the hearts of 18-35's who grew up with Toonami in the last decade.

Honestly, the pessimistic case makes way more sense to me. It would be good business. Criticize their recent licensing if you like (who knew Durarara!! would be such a dog?), but what other recent shows would have drawn in new anime fans? Moreover, consider that practically every anime series of any consequence in the last 5 years is readily available to Netflix and Hulu subscribers, and some are even free on Crunchyroll. If there were throngs of crossover fans flocking to watch the streams of High School of the Dead and Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and that's what [as] was reacting to… well… don't you think the kind of people who read ANN would have noticed it first? We're still the only ones watching that stuff.

Hey, I'd love to wake up Sunday and have my Facebook friends asking me "Hey, I was watching Cartoon Network before bed and they played some cool anime-type thing called Angel Beats; can you tell me more about it?" But I'm not expecting it to happen.

TitanXL wrote:

kakoishii wrote: More like it would never be on Adult Swim period in any form or fashion. What is so "adult" about Pocket Monsters? Let's not pretend it's more mature than it is. I'd say it's easily more mature than shows about a talking disembodied ass and anything Tim and Eric have made/starred in. But I'm not talking about maturity, I'm talking about content. Which is the only reason anime even airs on Adult Swim because they show mostly kids anime like Bleach and FMA. Adult Swim is the only place you CAN air Japanese children shows uncut, whether or not they're actually for adults is irrelevant.

Thats one thing I hate about media in general, in all honesty the vast majority of entertainment media is anything but "MATURE" but then if it was it would be pretty boring, lol. Most "ADULT" media is just as if not at times more juvenile then all-ages/childrens media, so overall I would say a shows intended demographic is overall irrelevant. However yes AS does primarily air shonen, however they COULD air more Senien series if they wanted to, will they? Probably not, but you never know. Also I still say calling FMA a kids anime is falicial, I think people give Japan too much credit, Teen anime maybe, kids anime, not so much. Not that it matters in the big scheme of things, but yeah.


Overall just like most american media is aimed at the LCD most anime seems to be aimed at Otaku (which one could argue is Japan's LCD, lol).

So really, yeah...just bunch o pointless semantics.

any who on a more light hearted note, I look forward to seeing what shows AS adds to the Toonami line-up and will defiantly be watching every Saturday.