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Anime News Nina! - 2009-02-25

LordRedhand, not all translations are subjective. Sometimes one really is superior to the other. "Future-men" and "Time travelers" is one of those situations.

You're going to come off as being a closed-minded R1 zealot if you seriously cannot admit that to be the case.

I'm the first to admit that the majority of R1 translations are superior to fansubs', but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.

No, it's just an overly literal translation of the phrase used for 'time-traveller'.

It wasn't. People involved with it have admitted (to me) that it was a mistake due to the font chosen. I'm not going to name names here.

stop. trying. to. blindly. defend. the. industry.

As you said, They are not infallible.

They admitted it was a mistake due to font size/type, so they won't do it again, but to not buy something over something so small as a overly literal translation?

allen001 wrote:

Agreed, quite a bit of meaning is lost when san or chan are just cut out. After all, they denote the mood the character is in, the familiarity of the characters, or sometimes just for effect. Anyways, after seeing official subs once on dvd volume 1 of Haruhi, I never, ever, ever, touched official subs again. God, how can you people stand those giant yellow letters that blare out at you and take away attention from the actual show, instead of most fansubs that try to style the subs to blend in.

Hi, welcome to the forum. Might I suggest a radical concept...

Buy the DVDs anyway and then watch the fansubs instead? That way you are helping the industry out (and lord knows they need your help).

Here's a thing to consider

I am a college student, with no job, and barely making rent. Naturally, what money I get goes into food, living, that sort of thing. As you may guess, all the anime I watch is fansubbed.

If I actually had money to throw around, maybe I would consider buying a box set or two. I still wouldn't pay for individual DVDs. I'm as cheap as you can imagine, and am fully aware that I'm harming the industry. But here's the thing- I honestly can't say I care. Yes, I am the very picture of a destructive anime leech.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a close friend of mine. He recently graduated University, but has yet to find a real career. He currently works incredibly long hours at a local grocery store, for next to nothing. And he, like a dutiful fan, spends every last cent that doesn't go toward living expenses on anime DVDs. The idea of even being in the same room as a PC loaded with fansubs is appalling to him, and his hobby addiction has driven him into near-poverty.

So here's my message to you- people like me who kill an industry to watch free cartoons are pretty stupid. People like my friend who kill themselves to support cartoons are just as stupid. Keep that in mind while you keep this everlasting argument alive.

As to Twilightmaster, if I'm right in thinking that

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Most of the time, people trying to justify fansubs as 'superior' are just trying to cop out of buying legit DVD's in the English production. (And by far, are the ones with little to no humor on the subject, as Zac pointed out.)

is indeed referring to myself in some way, I would like to inform you that I haven't watched a fansub in weeks and that my 300+ anime DVD collection would like strong words with you. I also did not state that fansubs were 'superior' so if you could please take your strawman somewhere else it would be greatly appreciated.

I apologise in advance if you were not.

So here's my message to you- people like me who kill an industry to watch free cartoons are pretty stupid. People like my friend who kill themselves to support cartoons are just as stupid.

Yeah...this is getting ugly. I mean geez, why can't we just say the comic was teh funneh and does have some merit/truth to it and be done?

On a side note, Tofu, I'm amazed at your steadfastness in defending your hobby despite your saying you "support" the R1 industry and then griping about it.